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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: "Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: "tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
	keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: ext4 dbench performance with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:57:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1270857455.4704.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EA929A9653AAE14F841771FB1DE5A1365FE4FCD4BC@rrsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 17:48 -0600, Chen, Tim C wrote:
> 
> >tytso@mit.edu wrote 
> >
> >Yeah, I'm very much aware of that.  What worries me is that locking
> >problems in the jbd2 layer could be very hard to debug, so we need to
> >make sure we have some really good testing as we make any changes.
> >
> >Not taking the j_state_lock spinlock in jbd2_stop_lock() was relatively
> >easy to prove to be safe, but I'm really worried about
> >start_this_handle() the locking around that is going to be subtle, and
> >it's not just the specific fields in the transaction and journal
> >handle.
> >
> >And even with the jbd2_stop_lock() change, I'd really prefer some
> >pretty exhaustive testing, including power fail testing, just to make
> >sure we're in practice when/if we make more subtle or more invasive
> >changes to the jbd2 layer...
> >
> >So I'm mot waving the red flag, but the yellow flag (as they would say
> >in auto racing circles).
> >
> 
> Your patch did remove the contention on the j_state_lock for dbench
> in my testing with 64 threads.  The contention point now
> moves dcache_lock, which is also another tricky bottleneck.

Nick Piggin's vfs scalability patches takes care of the dcache_lock
contention. I'm actually using them with the -rt patch in my testing
here.


> In our other testing with FFSB that creates/rename/remove a lot of directories,
> we found that journal->j_revoke_lock was also heavily contended.

Yep. This also shows up in my -rt patch testing with Ted's patch.

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-09 23:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07 23:21 ext4 dbench performance with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT john stultz
2010-04-08  3:46 ` tytso
2010-04-08 10:18   ` Theodore Tso
2010-04-08 20:41   ` john stultz
2010-04-08 21:10     ` tytso
2010-04-13  3:52       ` john stultz
2010-04-14  3:04       ` john stultz
2010-04-08 22:37   ` Mingming Cao
2010-04-12 19:46   ` Jan Kara
2010-04-13 14:52     ` tytso
2010-04-13 16:25       ` Darren Hart
2010-06-02 22:35       ` j_state_lock patch data (was: Re: ext4 dbench performance with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) Eric Whitney
2010-04-09 15:49 ` ext4 dbench performance with CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT Andi Kleen
2010-04-09 23:33   ` tytso
2010-04-09 23:48     ` Chen, Tim C
2010-04-09 23:57       ` john stultz [this message]
2010-04-10 11:58       ` tytso
2010-04-12 19:54         ` Chen, Tim C

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