From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:39:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305149960.2606.53.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305127773-10570-1-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 16:29 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Debian (and probably Ubuntu) have recently have changed to the default
> option of SLUB. There are a few reports of people experiencing hangs
> when copying large amounts of data with kswapd using a large amount of
> CPU. It appears this is down to SLUB using high orders by default and
> the page allocator and reclaim struggling to keep up. The following
> three patches reduce the cost of using those high orders.
>
> Patch 1 prevents kswapd waking up in response to SLUBs speculative
> use of high orders. This eliminates the hangs and while the
> system can still stall for long periods, it recovers.
>
> Patch 2 further reduces the cost by prevent SLUB entering direct
> compaction or reclaim paths on the grounds that falling
> back to order-0 should be cheaper.
>
> Patch 3 defaults SLUB to using order-0 on the grounds that the
> systems that heavily benefit from using high-order are also
> sized to fit in physical memory. On such systems, they should
> manually tune slub_max_order=3.
>
> My own data on this is not great. I haven't really been able to
> reproduce the same problem locally but a significant failing is
> that the tests weren't stressing X but I couldn't make meaningful
> comparisons by just randomly clicking on things (working on fixing
> this problem).
>
> The test case is simple. "download tar" wgets a large tar file and
> stores it locally. "unpack" is expanding it (15 times physical RAM
> in this case) and "delete source dirs" is the tarfile being deleted
> again. I also experimented with having the tar copied numerous times
> and into deeper directories to increase the size but the results were
> not particularly interesting so I left it as one tar.
>
> Test server, 4 CPU threads (AMD Phenom), x86_64, 2G of RAM, no X running
> - nowake
> largecopy-vanilla kswapd-v1r1 noexstep-v1r1 default0-v1r1
> download tar 94 ( 0.00%) 94 ( 0.00%) 94 ( 0.00%) 93 ( 1.08%)
> unpack tar 521 ( 0.00%) 551 (-5.44%) 482 ( 8.09%) 488 ( 6.76%)
> delete source dirs 208 ( 0.00%) 218 (-4.59%) 194 ( 7.22%) 194 ( 7.22%)
> MMTests Statistics: duration
> User/Sys Time Running Test (seconds) 740.82 777.73 739.98 747.47
> Total Elapsed Time (seconds) 1046.66 1273.91 962.47 936.17
>
> Disabling kswapd alone hurts performance slightly even though testers
> report it fixes hangs. I would guess it's because SLUB callers are
> calling direct reclaim more frequently (I belatedly noticed that
> compaction was disabled so it's not a factor) but haven't confirmed
> it. However, preventing kswapd waking or entering direct reclaim and
> having SLUB falling back to order-0 performed noticeably faster. Just
> using order-0 in the first place was fastest of all.
>
> I tried running the same test on a test laptop but unfortunately
> due to a misconfiguration the results were lost. It would take a few
> hours to rerun so am posting without them.
>
> If the testers verify this series help and we agree the patches are
> appropriate, they should be considered a stable candidate for 2.6.38.
OK, I confirm that I can't seem to break this one. No hangs visible,
even when loading up the system with firefox, evolution, the usual
massive untar, X and even a distribution upgrade.
You can add my tested-by
James
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-11 21:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-11 15:29 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 21:10 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0 Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 20:53 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-11 21:09 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 22:27 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 10:14 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16 21:03 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 19:25 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-12 14:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:15 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:43 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:46 ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:08 ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:30 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 17:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 17:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:11 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16 8:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:36 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 17:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 15:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 18:37 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 19:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 19:44 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:04 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:04 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 22:58 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13 5:39 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13 0:47 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 4:12 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:55 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:16 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:30 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 6:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-13 10:05 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 16:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 17:37 ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12 15:45 ` Dave Jones
2011-05-11 21:39 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-05-11 22:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations David Rientjes
2011-05-11 22:34 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 11:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 13:19 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 14:04 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:53 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 11:25 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 18:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13 11:24 ` Mel Gorman
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