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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com>,
	 Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	 Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:39:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305149960.2606.53.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305127773-10570-1-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 16:29 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Debian (and probably Ubuntu) have recently have changed to the default
> option of SLUB. There are a few reports of people experiencing hangs
> when copying large amounts of data with kswapd using a large amount of
> CPU. It appears this is down to SLUB using high orders by default and
> the page allocator and reclaim struggling to keep up. The following
> three patches reduce the cost of using those high orders.
> 
> Patch 1 prevents kswapd waking up in response to SLUBs speculative
> 	use of high orders. This eliminates the hangs and while the
> 	system can still stall for long periods, it recovers.
> 
> Patch 2 further reduces the cost by prevent SLUB entering direct
> 	compaction or reclaim paths on the grounds that falling
> 	back to order-0 should be cheaper.
> 
> Patch 3 defaults SLUB to using order-0 on the grounds that the
> 	systems that heavily benefit from using high-order are also
> 	sized to fit in physical memory. On such systems, they should
> 	manually tune slub_max_order=3.
> 
> My own data on this is not great. I haven't really been able to
> reproduce the same problem locally but a significant failing is
> that the tests weren't stressing X but I couldn't make meaningful
> comparisons by just randomly clicking on things (working on fixing
> this problem).
> 
> The test case is simple. "download tar" wgets a large tar file and
> stores it locally. "unpack" is expanding it (15 times physical RAM
> in this case) and "delete source dirs" is the tarfile being deleted
> again. I also experimented with having the tar copied numerous times
> and into deeper directories to increase the size but the results were
> not particularly interesting so I left it as one tar.
> 
> Test server, 4 CPU threads (AMD Phenom), x86_64, 2G of RAM, no X running
>                              -       nowake    
>              largecopy-vanilla       kswapd-v1r1  noexstep-v1r1     default0-v1r1
> download tar           94 ( 0.00%)   94 ( 0.00%)   94 ( 0.00%)   93 ( 1.08%)
> unpack tar            521 ( 0.00%)  551 (-5.44%)  482 ( 8.09%)  488 ( 6.76%)
> delete source dirs    208 ( 0.00%)  218 (-4.59%)  194 ( 7.22%)  194 ( 7.22%)
> MMTests Statistics: duration
> User/Sys Time Running Test (seconds)        740.82    777.73    739.98    747.47
> Total Elapsed Time (seconds)               1046.66   1273.91    962.47    936.17
> 
> Disabling kswapd alone hurts performance slightly even though testers
> report it fixes hangs. I would guess it's because SLUB callers are
> calling direct reclaim more frequently (I belatedly noticed that
> compaction was disabled so it's not a factor) but haven't confirmed
> it. However, preventing kswapd waking or entering direct reclaim and
> having SLUB falling back to order-0 performed noticeably faster. Just
> using order-0 in the first place was fastest of all.
> 
> I tried running the same test on a test laptop but unfortunately
> due to a misconfiguration the results were lost. It would take a few
> hours to rerun so am posting without them.
> 
> If the testers verify this series help and we agree the patches are
> appropriate, they should be considered a stable candidate for 2.6.38.

OK, I confirm that I can't seem to break this one.  No hangs visible,
even when loading up the system with firefox, evolution, the usual
massive untar, X and even a distribution upgrade.

You can add my tested-by

James


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-11 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11 15:29 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 21:10     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:25       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0 Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 20:53     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-11 21:09     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 22:27       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 10:14         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16 21:03       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 19:25           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-12 14:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:15     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:43         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:46           ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:00             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:08               ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:27               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:30                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:48                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 17:46                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:00                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:18                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 17:06                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:11                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:00                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13  9:49                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:39                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16  8:42                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:51                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:03                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:16                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:36                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 17:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 15:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 18:37             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 18:46               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 19:21                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 19:44               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:04                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:29                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:04                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:15                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 22:58                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  5:39                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  0:47                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13  4:12                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:55                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:16                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:30                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13  6:16                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-13 10:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 17:37               ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12 15:45         ` Dave Jones
2011-05-11 21:39 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-05-11 22:28   ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations David Rientjes
2011-05-11 22:34     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 11:13       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 13:19         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 14:04         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:53           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 11:25             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13 11:24         ` Mel Gorman

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