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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Jose R. Santos" <jrs@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Valerie Clement <valerie.clement@bull.net>
Subject: Re: [E2FSPROGS, RFC] mke2fs: New bitmap and inode table allocation for FLEX_BG
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:57:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080422185728.GC20668@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080422103212.1c974bd9@gara>

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:32:12AM -0500, Jose R. Santos wrote:
> I see that now, guess I should not read code with out having
> breakfast.  I think 8 is a very safe and conservative number, maybe to
> conservative. The 64 group packing was the number I found to be a
> overall improvement with the limited number of drives that I had to
> test with.  Haven't done any testing on old drives or laptop drive with
> slow spindle speed but I would think 16 or 32 would be safe here unless
> the drive is really old and small.

Let's stay with 16 then for now.  Spindle speed doesn't actually
matter here; what matters is seek speed, and the density of the disk
drive.  The other thing which worries me though is that the size of
each flex_bg block group cluster is dependent on the size of the block
group, which in turn is related to the square of the filesystem
blocksize.   i.e., assuming a fs blockgroup size of 16, then:

Blocksize    Blocks/blockgroup  Blockgroup Size   Flex_BG cluster size

   1k	         8192             8 Meg	              128 Meg
   2k           16384             32 Meg              512 Meg
   4k           32768		  128 Meg	      2 Gig
   8k		65536             512 Meg	      8 Gig
  16k          131072             2 Gig		      32 Gig
  32k	       262144		  8 Gig		      128 Gig
  64k	       524288		  32 Gig	      512 Gig

So using a fixed default of 16, the flexible blockgroup size can range
anything from 128 megs to half a terabyte!

How much a difference in your numbers are you seeing, anyway?  Is it
big enough that we really need to worry about it?

    	   	   	       	  	- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-22 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-22 12:46 [RFC] Modified flex_bg patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-04-22 12:46 ` [E2FSPROGS, RFC] Basic flexible block group support Theodore Ts'o
2008-04-22 12:46   ` [E2FSPROGS, RFC] mke2fs: New bitmap and inode table allocation for FLEX_BG Theodore Ts'o
2008-04-22 14:18     ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-22 14:51       ` Theodore Tso
2008-04-22 15:32         ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-22 18:57           ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-04-22 22:27             ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-23  1:21               ` Theodore Tso
2008-04-23  5:48                 ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-23 12:23                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-04-23 16:24                     ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-23 20:57             ` Andreas Dilger
2008-04-23 21:20               ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-23 20:39     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-04-23 21:05       ` Jose R. Santos
2008-04-25 20:10         ` Andreas Dilger
2008-04-28 12:01           ` Theodore Tso
2008-04-23 21:01     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-04-22 13:47   ` [E2FSPROGS, RFC] Basic flexible block group support Jose R. Santos

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