From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:30:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080516223023.GF15334@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080516130545.845a3be9.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> > A collection of patches to make ext3 & 4 use barriers by
> > default, and to call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync if they
> > are enabled.
>
> Last time this came up lots of workloads slowed down by 30% so I
> dropped the patches in horror.
Apart from batching larger journal commits, I thought of another way
which might improve write performance with barriers.
Basically, right now a barrier prevents any write I/Os from being
moved before or after it in the elevator, as well as issuing commands
itself.
It may be that relaxing barriers to allow moving writes when it's fine
will allow the elevator to schedule writes to reduce seeking?
A clear example of when it's fine is data=ordered, overwriting data in
a file. Those data writes don't have to be ordered against other
filesystem activity which is triggering journal commits. So they
could be moved around barrier ops, if the elevator deems that would
reduce seeks or to coalesce ops.
Similar arguments apply to moving writes past fsync() flushes, but the
rules are a bit different.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-16 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-16 19:02 [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 19:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] ext3: enable barriers by default Eric Sandeen
2008-05-19 8:58 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 19:07 ` [PATCH 2/4] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 19:08 ` [PATCH 3/4] ext4: enable barriers by default Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 19:09 ` [PATCH 4/4] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Eric Sandeen
2008-05-20 2:34 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 15:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 15:52 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-20 20:14 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-20 19:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-20 22:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 7:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Andrew Morton
2008-05-16 20:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 20:58 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-16 21:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-17 0:20 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-17 0:35 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-17 13:43 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-17 17:59 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-17 20:44 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 14:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-18 0:48 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-18 1:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-18 14:49 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-05-20 14:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 23:48 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <4830420D.4080608__28835.4277647615$1211137279$gmane$org@gmail.com>
2008-05-18 19:59 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-18 16:07 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-05-20 23:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-18 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 0:43 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-19 2:29 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-19 4:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-19 17:16 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 18:39 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 22:39 ` Jan Kara
2008-05-20 0:29 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 3:29 ` Timothy Shimmin
2008-05-20 12:04 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 8:25 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-20 12:17 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-21 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-21 12:32 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 18:03 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 18:15 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-21 19:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 18:29 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 18:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 19:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 19:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 19:40 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-21 19:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 14:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 22:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-05-20 23:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-19 0:28 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 15:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 20:25 ` Greg Smith
2008-05-16 22:30 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-05-18 19:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 13:26 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 14:46 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 2:51 ` [PATCH, RFC] ext4: Fix use of write barrier in commit logic Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 15:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-23 18:33 ` [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Ric Wheeler
2008-05-20 15:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 16:02 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 16:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 17:08 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 22:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-19 9:04 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-29 13:36 ` Eric Sandeen
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