From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, sct@redhat.com,
adilger@sun.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH 0/3 BUG,RFC] release block-device-mapping buffer_heads which have the filesystem private data for avoiding oom-killer
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:29:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081124222932.511c3cb7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492B9791.30007@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:13:37 +0900 Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:27:11 +0900
> > Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> >
> > I'm scratching my head trying to work out why we never encountered and
> > fixed this before.
>
> > Is it possible that you have a very large number of filesystems
> > mounted, and/or that they have large journals?
>
> Yes, I think it happen more easily under those conditions.
>
> Actually, I encountered this situation if conditions were:
> - on the x86 architecture (The size of Normal zone is only 800MB
> even if the huge memory (more than 4GB) install.)
> - reserving the big memory (more than 100MB) for the kdump kernel.
> (The memory obtains from Normal Zone.)
> - mounting the large number of ext3 filesystems (more than 50).
>
> And the following operations were done:
> - many I/Os were issued to many filesystems sequentially and continuously.
> (They made many journal_heads (and buffer_heads).
> => they were metadata.)
> - issuing the I/Os to many filesystems were stopped.
> (This caused many metadata to remain.)
>
> By their operations, the number of remaining the journal_heads was
> more than 100000 (They occupied 400MB (The same number of buffer_heads remained
> and the block size was 4096B)). We cannot release those journal_heads because
> checkpointing the transactions are not executed till some I/Os are issued to
> the filesystems or the filesystems were unmounting.
> And many other slab caches which couldn't be released occupied about 300MB.
> Therefore about 800MB memory couldn't be released.
> As a result, there was no room in the Normal zone.
>
> I think you could not encounter it because you haven't done such the following:
> - You reserve the big memory for the kdump kernel.
> - You issue many I/Os to each ext3 filesystem sequentially and continuously,
> and then you never issue some I/Os to the filesystems at all afterwards.
> (Especially, you do the operations which causes many metadata to remain.
> Example: Delete many files which are huge.)
yup.
> > Would it not be more logical if the ->client_releasepage function
> > pointer were a member of the blockdev address_space_operations, rather
> > than some random field in the blockdev inode? That arrangement might
> > well be reused in the future, when some other address_space needs to
> > talk to a different address_space to make a page reclaimable.
>
> I think it logical to replace a default ->releasepage with a function pointer
> which a client (FS) passed, but I don't think it logical to add a new member
> function in address space in order to release a client page. Because new
> function is called from ->releasepage, so I think this function pointer should
> not be put in the same level as the releasepage of address space.
>
> Though, it is difficult to replace ->releasepage member with a client function
> because there is no exclusive operation while this function is calling.
>
> So, I made this patch (without replacing ->releasepage).
>
> How about my thought?
yeah, I don't have particularly strong opinions either way. If it
needs changing later, we can change it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-25 6:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-20 0:27 [RESEND][PATCH 0/3 BUG,RFC] release block-device-mapping buffer_heads which have the filesystem private data for avoiding oom-killer Toshiyuki Okajima
2008-11-24 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-25 6:13 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2008-11-25 6:29 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-11-25 6:22 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-25 7:32 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-25 8:06 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
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