From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: EXT4 ENOSPC Bug
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:47:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812021847.35771.andres@anarazel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081202164709.GC18162@mit.edu>
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Hi,
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:47:09 Theodore Tso wrote:
> You say you are using Postgres, right? Something you might try to see
> if it triggers the problem it is creating a new database and then
> restoring some database dump/backup into that new database. Some
> databases expand into a new table space (or whatever terminology
> Postgres uses) by random writes into a sparse portion of the file.
> This could be triggering the problem, or at least trigger the problem
> more quickly.
I tried that - I have seen no problems so far. But it is not the first time I
did not see the problem for some time.
Btw, postgres just creates the database by copying over a default database.
For an easy test with sparse files, I created a big one, set it up as a loop
device, created a filesystem and ran some stuff in it.
No Problem so far.
> The other thing I wanted to ask is whether "df" was showing the 37%
> in-use statistic at the time, or was that after you rebooted.
It definitely was before a reboot. And there were plenty of both, inodes and
blocks.
I think that I have seen the problem on metadata only changes (find /tmp -type
f|xargs touch) as well, but sometimes metadata changes were possible while file
creation was not.
Another Datapoint: File deletion sometimes made it possible to create more
files, but by far not as much as the space freed.
> And although I hate to ask it, you're sure this isn't the standard "delete
> an in-use file but not get the space back" Unix trap, right?
There were over 200GB free, so I doubt that. I don't know what could have
caused an allocation of so much space unnoticed in an idle system multiple
times.
But I do understand the reason for the question ;-)
Andres
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-02 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-29 13:18 EXT4 ENOSPC Bug Andres Freund
2008-11-29 20:32 ` Jonathan Bastien-Filiatrault
2008-11-29 21:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-29 21:31 ` Andres Freund
2008-12-01 12:34 ` Andres Freund
2008-12-01 19:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-12-01 20:16 ` Andres Freund
2008-12-02 7:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-02 14:58 ` Andres Freund
2008-12-02 16:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-02 17:47 ` Andres Freund [this message]
2008-12-02 20:33 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-03 0:37 ` Jonathan Bastien-Filiatrault
2008-12-03 0:40 ` Jonathan Bastien-Filiatrault
2008-12-03 4:37 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-03 15:34 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-12-03 17:23 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-03 18:18 ` Andres Freund
2008-12-02 15:26 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-12-10 0:07 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-16 11:37 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-16 15:01 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-16 15:27 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-16 19:00 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-17 17:21 ` Alex Buell
2009-02-17 17:36 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-18 21:18 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-18 21:29 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-19 2:18 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-19 3:22 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-19 15:46 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-23 2:02 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-27 3:57 ` Andres Freund
2009-02-17 18:13 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-17 20:08 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <499B1935.10906@redhat.com>
2009-02-17 22:00 ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-17 22:30 ` Alex Buell
2009-02-17 22:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-17 22:59 ` Alex Buell
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