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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ext4: Avoid races caused by on-line resizing and SMP memory reordering
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:14:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090428171445.GD24043@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090428162359.GK21950@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:23:59PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
>   Ouch... Hmm, smp_rmb() isn't completely free and mainly it's a bit
> ugly and prone to errors (I'm afraid next time someone changes the
> allocation code, we miss some barriers again)... so.. Maybe a stupid
> idea but wouldn't it be easier to solve the online resize like: freeze
> the filesystem, do all the changes required for extend, unfreeze the
> filesystem?

Eric suggested a helper function when reading from s_groups_count.
That would take care of the code maintenance headache.  One problem
with using freeze/thaw is it won't work without a journal, and we do
support filesystems without journals in ext4.  (Probably the best
solution for netbooks with crapola SSD's.)

As far as smb_rmb() not being free, it's essentially free for
x86/x86_64 platforms.  Is it really that costly on other
architectures?

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-28 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-26  3:49 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Eliminate most lock_super() calls from ext4 Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-26  3:49 ` [PATCH 1/5] ext4: Avoid races caused by on-line resizing and SMP memory reordering Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-26  3:49   ` [PATCH 2/5] ext4: Remove outdated comment about lock_super() Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-26  3:49     ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: ext4_mark_recovery_complete() doesn't need to use lock_super Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-26  3:49       ` [PATCH 4/5] ext4: Replace lock/unlock_super() with an explicit lock for the orphan list Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-26  3:49         ` [PATCH 5/5] ext4: Replace lock/unlock_super() with an explicit lock for resizing Theodore Ts'o
2009-04-28 16:02           ` Jan Kara
2009-04-28 15:52         ` [PATCH 4/5] ext4: Replace lock/unlock_super() with an explicit lock for the orphan list Jan Kara
2009-04-26  7:07       ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: ext4_mark_recovery_complete() doesn't need to use lock_super Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-26 11:46         ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-26 11:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-28 16:13     ` [PATCH 2/5] ext4: Remove outdated comment about lock_super() Jan Kara
2009-04-28 16:23   ` [PATCH 1/5] ext4: Avoid races caused by on-line resizing and SMP memory reordering Jan Kara
2009-04-28 17:14     ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2009-04-29  9:28       ` Jan Kara
2009-05-01 13:55       ` [PATCH v2] " Theodore Ts'o
2009-05-03 17:08         ` Jan Kara

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