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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Christian Fischer <Christian.Fischer@easterngraphics.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Enable asynchronous commits by default patch revoked?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:31:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090824183119.GI5931@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090824133447.GH23677@mit.edu>

On Aug 24, 2009  09:34 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:33:10AM +0200, Christian Fischer wrote:
> > I try to figure out reasonable mount options for ext4.
> > 
> > I've seen a "Enable asynchronous commits by default" patch from Sun, 21 Sep 
> > 2008.
> > 
> > Why is it revoked?
> 
> It patch was never merged because the ayschronous commits feature
> disabled all write barriers, so under heavy workloads a power failure
> could cause data loss.
> 
> No one has gotten around to looking at this closely; I think adding a
> strategically placed blkdev_issue_flush() will allow us to safely
> enable this feature, but it needs careful study.

I don't think that was the issue, but rather that we wanted to have
per-block checksums in order to handle the case were some block in
transaction A is causing a transaction checksum failure, yet transaction
B has already committed and begun checkpointing.

One option discussed was to add a lightweight 16-bit checksum (e.g. TCP
checksum) to the high bits of the t_flags of the block tag.  The checksum
doesn't have to be very strong since the whole-transaction checksum will
be the primary point of validation.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-24 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200908241033.10527.Christian.Fischer@easterngraphics.com>
2009-08-24 13:34 ` Enable asynchronous commits by default patch revoked? Theodore Tso
2009-08-24 18:31   ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2009-08-24 18:37     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-24 20:10     ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24 20:28       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-24 22:07         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24 22:12           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-24 23:28             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24 23:43               ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-25  0:15                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-25 17:52                   ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-25 18:07                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-25 21:11                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26  9:50                         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-26 13:14                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26 22:00                             ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-26 22:55                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-25 18:21                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 16:02                   ` Jan Kara
2009-08-24 22:46           ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-24 23:52             ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-02 14:48           ` Tom Vier
2009-09-02 15:03             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24 21:28       ` Andreas Dilger
2009-08-25  6:16   ` Christian Fischer

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