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From: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: cmm@us.ibm.com, sandeen@redhat.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V2] ext4: Drop mapped buffer_head check during page_mkwrite
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:03:14 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090831123313.GA21973@skywalker.linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090831122448.GG20822@mit.edu>

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:24:48AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:00:06PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > Below are the possibilities i looked at
> > 
> > a) mmap with no parallel write to the same offset. That would mean
> > we don't have attached buffer heads because nobody attach buffer
> > heads to the page.
> > 
> > b) mmap happening to the hole. The buffer heads are not mapped.
> > 
> > c) mmap with parallel write to the same offset. The parallel write
> > did attach mapped buffer heads to the same page. So we should find
> > all buffer heads mapped in the above case. 
> > 
> > if we will find buffer heads already be mapped in many workloads then
> > i guess it make sense to add page lock. It will also avoid the
> > journal_start that we do in write_begin. I will redo the patch
> 
> The usage case I was worried about is the one where we are mmap'ing an
> existing file (say, like an Oracle or DB2 table space, or a berkdb
> database file), and we are writing into already allocated blocks.  In
> that case (which does use these code paths, right?) the second time we
> write a particular page, the buffer heads will already be mapped.

If the database is not being updated via a write(2), then even though
the blocks are already allocated, we won't find buffer_heads attached to the page.

ie, page_buffers(page) will be NULL

The page_mkwrite -> write_begin  path would be allocating the buffer_heads
and attaching them to the page. So even in the above case we will be
doing write_begin -> write_end. That is, it is similar to the (a) i wrote
above.


> 
> For database applications where we aren't loading a table, but just
> making changes to an already instantiated table, the buffer heads
> would be mapped most of the time, would they not?
> 
> 					- Ted

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-26  5:23 [PATCH -V2] ext4: Drop mapped buffer_head check during page_mkwrite Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-08-29  2:26 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-31  6:30   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-08-31 12:24     ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-31 12:33       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2009-08-31 12:50         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-31 17:06           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-09-06  3:49             ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-07 12:22               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-09-07  9:44     ` [PATCH -v3] ext4: Take page lock before looking at attached buffer_heads flags Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-09-10  3:25       ` Theodore Tso

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