From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>
Cc: Jon Leighton <j@jonathanleighton.com>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Severe slowdown caused by jbd2 process
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:56:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110121235641.GM3043@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110121143145.GB11313@dhcp231-156.rdu.redhat.com>
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 09:31:45AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
>
> Yup, whatever you are doing in your webapp is making your database do lots of
> fsyncs, which is going to suck. If you are on a battery backed system or just
> don't care if you lose your database and rather it be faster you can mount your
> ext4 fs with -o nobarrier. Thanks,
Note that if you don't use -o barrier on ext3, or use -o nobarrier on
ext4, the chance of significant file system damage if you have a power
failure, since without the barrier, the file system doesn't wait for
disk to acknowledge that the data has hit the barrier. The problem is
that if you are using a barrier operation, you're not going to be able
to get more than about 30-50 non-trivial[1] fsync's per second on a
standard HDD; barriers are inherently slow.
[1] Where there was some kind of data write between the two fsync's.
You may be able to get faster back-to-back fsync() with no intervening
data writes, but that's not terribly interesting. :-)
A UPS should protect you against most of the dangers of not using
barriers. The other choice is to be more intelligent with your coding
(and/or with your database choice) to avoid needing a huge number of
fsync's, as they are going to be costly. If you can batch multiple
database operations under a single commit, for example, you should be
able to eliminate the need for so many fsync's.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-21 23:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-21 0:13 Severe slowdown caused by jbd2 process Jon Leighton
2011-01-21 1:31 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <1295601083.5799.3.camel@tybalt>
2011-01-21 12:59 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-21 14:03 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-21 14:28 ` Jon Leighton
2011-01-21 14:31 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-21 23:56 ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-01-22 1:11 ` torn5
2011-01-22 1:34 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-22 16:21 ` torn5
2011-01-22 19:37 ` Theodore Tso
2011-01-22 23:22 ` torn5
2011-01-23 5:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-23 18:43 ` torn5
2011-01-24 20:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-22 13:05 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-01-24 20:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
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