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From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Moffett, Kyle D" <Kyle.D.Moffett@boeing.com>
Cc: "615998@bugs.debian.org" <615998@bugs.debian.org>,
	"Livingston, John A" <john.a.livingston@boeing.com>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sachin Sant <sachinp@in.ibm.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#615998: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: Repeatable "kernel BUG 	at fs/jbd2/commit.c:534" from Postfix on ext4
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:15:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110405001542.GE2832@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15E8241A-37A0-4438-849E-A157A376C7F1@boeing.com>

On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:24:28AM -0500, Moffett, Kyle D wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately it was not a trivial process to install Debian
> "squeeze" onto an EC2 instance; it took a couple ugly Perl scripts,
> a patched Debian-Installer, and several manual
> post-install-but-before-reboot steps (like fixing up GRUB 0.99).
> One of these days I may get time to update all that to the official
> "wheezy" release and submit bug reports.

Sigh, I was whoping someone was maintaining semi-official EC2 images
for Debian, much like alestic has been maintaining for Ubuntu.  (Hmm,
actually, he has EC2 images for Lenny and Etch, but unfortunately not
for squeeze.  Sigh....)

> It's probably easier for me to halt email delivery and clone the
> working instance and try to reproduce from there.  If I recall, the
> (easily undone) workaround was to remount from "data=journal" to
> "data=ordered" on a couple filesystems.  It may take a day or two to
> get this done, though.

Couple of questions which might give me some clues: (a) was this a
natively formatted ext4 file system, or a ext3 file system which was
later converted to ext4?  (b) How big are the files/directories
involved?  In particular, how big is the Postfix mail queue directory,
and it is an extent-based directory?  (what does lsattr on the mail
queue directory report) As far as file sizes, does it matter how big
the e-mail messages are, and are there any other database files that
postgress might be touching at the time that you get the OOPS?

I have found a bug in ext4 where we were underestimating how many
journal credits were needed when modifying direct/indirect-mapped
files (which would be seen on ext4 if you had a ext3 file system that
was converted to start using extents; but old, pre-existing
directories wouldn't be converted), which is why I'm asking the
question about whether this was an ext2/ext3 file system which was
converted to use ext4.

I have a patch to fix it, but backporting it into a kernel which will
work with EC2 is not something I've done before.  Can anyone point me
at a web page that gives me the quick cheat sheet?

> If it comes down to it I also have a base image (from "squeeze" as of 9 months ago) that could be made public after updating with new SSH keys. 

If we can reproduce the problem on that base image it would be really
great!  I have an Amazon AWS account; contact me when you have an
image you want to share, if you want to share it just with my AWS
account id, instead of sharing it publically...

      	  	    		   	   	 - Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-05  0:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110301165239.3310.43806.reportbug@support.exmeritus.com>
     [not found] ` <BE4E C1DF-4DFC-4B94-923D-0197B16BD7B4@boeing.com>
2011-03-01 19:26 ` Bug#615998: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: Repeatable "kernel BUG at fs/jbd2/commit.c:534" from Postfix on ext4 Moffett, Kyle D
2011-04-03  2:02   ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-04 14:24     ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-04-04 20:51       ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-04-05  0:15       ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-04-05 15:30         ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-04-05 19:07           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-05 19:44             ` Bug#615998: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: Repeatable "kernelBUG " Moffett, Kyle D
     [not found]               ` <20110405230538.GH2832@thunk.org>
     [not found]                 ` <FD93E462-D97B-411B-BF09-9A64670AC5C2@boeing.com>
2011-06-23 18:32                   ` Bug#615998: linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64: Repeatable "kernel BUG " Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-23 20:55                     ` Sean Ryle
2011-06-23 21:19                       ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-24 13:46                         ` Jan Kara
2011-06-24 16:03                           ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-24 20:02                             ` Jan Kara
2011-06-24 20:51                               ` Kyle Moffett
2011-08-26 21:03                                 ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-08-30 22:12                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-08-31  0:26                                     ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-09-01 15:17                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-12-06 21:26                                         ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-27 11:16                               ` Lukas Czerner
2011-06-27 11:57                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2011-06-27 14:02                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-06-27 15:30                                   ` Lukas Czerner
2011-06-27 16:01                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2011-06-27 20:27                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-06-28  4:21                                       ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-28  9:36                                         ` Jan Kara
2011-06-28 13:58                                           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-06-28 14:16                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-06-28 19:36                                             ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-28 19:30                                           ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-28 22:57                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-06-29  4:22                                               ` Moffett, Kyle D
2011-06-23 22:23                     ` Ted Ts'o

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