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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Masayoshi MIZUMA <m.mizuma@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	sandeen@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Re: [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 00:54:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110405225428.GD8531@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D9AEE28.4000003@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Tue 05-04-11 19:25:44, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> (2011/03/31 21:03), Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >Hi, thanks for your reviewing.
> >
> >(2011/03/30 23:12), Jan Kara wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>On Mon 28-03-11 17:06:28, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >>>On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:52 +0100
> >>>Jan Kara<jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>>>On Thu 17-02-11 12:50:51, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >>>>>(2011/02/16 23:56), Jan Kara wrote:
> >>>>>>On Wed 16-02-11 08:17:46, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >>>>>>>On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:29:54 +0100
> >>>>>>>Jan Kara<jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>On Tue 15-02-11 12:03:52, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:06:30PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> ><SNIP>
> >>>I have deeply continued to examined the root cause of this problem, then
> >>>I found it.
> >>>
> >>>It is that we can write a memory which is mmaped to a file. Then the memory
> >>>becomes "DIRTY" so then the flusher thread (ex. wb_do_writeback) tries to
> >>>"writeback" the memory.
> >>>
> >>>Therefore, the root cause of this hangup is not only ext4 component (with
> >>>delayed allocation feature) but also writeback mechanism for mmap. If you
> >>>use the other filesystem, you can write something to the filesystem though
> >>>you have freezed the filesystem.
> >
> >>Well, you can write something only in the caches, not to the on disk
> >>image. So it's not a problem as such.
> >My reproducer uses the loopback device(/dev/loopX). By using it, I have confirmed that
> >we can write in not only the caches but also the loopback device. However,
> >I don't still confirm that we can write to the real device(/dev/sdaX).
> >
> >>
> >>>A sample problem is attached on this mail. Try to execute it then you can
> >>>confirm that we can write some data to your filesystem while freezing the
> >>>filesystem.
> >>>(If you change FS variable in go.sh from ext3 to ext4 and you execute
> >>>"fsfreeze -u mnt" manually on other prompt, you can also confirm this deadlock.)
> >>>
> >>>I think the best approach to fix this problem is to let users not to write
> >>>memory which is mapped to a certain file while the filesystem is freezing.
> >>>However, it is very difficult to control users not to write memory which has
> >>>been already mapped to the file.
> >>It is actually possible. In case of ext4, you could add a check (+ wait)
> >>in ext4_page_mkwrite() whether the filesystem is frozen or in the process
> >>of being frozen and if so, wait for it to get unfrozen. The only tough
> >>problem here might be the locking as ext4_page_mkwrite() is called with
> >>mmap_sem held and I'm not sure we can take s_umount with mmap_sem held.
> >>But you'd have to fix all filesystems (and all paths possibly creating
> >>dirty data) in this way.
> >>
> >
> >>>Therefore, I think there is only actual method that we stop writeback thread
> >>>to resolve the mmap problem. Also, by this fix, the original problem
> >>>(ext4 delayed write vs unfreeze) can be solved.
> >>Hmm, I had a look at the code again and think we could fix the issue
> >>cleanly (i.e. all possible users of s_umount) as follows: The lock
> >>ordering will be
> >>s_umount -> "fs frozen"
> >>and there will be a new mutex s_freeze_mutex protecting changes of
> >>s_frozen.
> >>
> >>freeze_bdev() already observes this lock ordering, it will only take
> >>s_freeze_mutex for the changes of s_frozen values. The only other code
> >>that is relevant for the lock ordering is thaw_super() (the freezing
> >>process is not expected to reenter kernel for the frozen filesystem).
> >>In thaw_super() we could take s_freeze_mutex, do all the thawing work,
> >>set s_frozen, release s_freeze_mutex and put superblock reference.
> >>
> >
> >>So something like the patch below - it seems to work for me, can you test
> >>it please?
> >I think your patch looks good, so, the original problem seems to be solved.
> >OK, I will test your patch.
> >This weekend I cannot test it. So, I will reply next week.
> I have tested whether Mizuma-san's reproducer can cause to deadlock with your
> patch. And then any problems didn't hit while the reproducer was running.
>
> I think your patch solves the original deadlock problem which is reported by
> Mizuma-san.
  Good. Thanks.

> >Reported-by: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>
> >Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> >---
> > fs/super.c         |   40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> > include/linux/fs.h |    1 +
> > 2 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> However, I think a write which causes the deadlock is from mmapped dirty
> pages. So, I guess we also need to fix in the mmap path while fsfreezing.
  Why? If you dirty a page, writeback thread can come and try to write it -
which blocks - but now that does not matter...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-05 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 11:53 [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock Masayoshi MIZUMA
2011-02-15 16:06 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 17:03   ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-15 17:29     ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 18:04       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-15 19:11         ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 23:17       ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-02-16 14:56         ` Jan Kara
2011-02-17  3:50           ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-02-17  5:13             ` Andreas Dilger
2011-02-17 10:41               ` Jan Kara
2011-02-17 10:45             ` Jan Kara
2011-03-28  8:06               ` [RFC][PATCH] " Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-03-30 14:12                 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-31  8:37                   ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31  8:48                     ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31 14:04                     ` Eric Sandeen
2011-03-31 14:36                       ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31 15:25                         ` Eric Sandeen
2011-03-31 16:28                         ` Jan Kara
2011-03-31 12:03                   ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-05 10:25                     ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-05 22:54                       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-04-06  5:09                         ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-06  5:57                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06  7:40                             ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-06 17:46                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-15 13:39                                 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-15 17:13                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-15 17:17                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-15 17:37                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-18  9:05                                     ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-18 10:51                                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19  9:43                                         ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-22  6:58                                           ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-22 21:26                                             ` Peter M. Petrakis
2011-04-22 21:40                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22 22:57                                                 ` Peter M. Petrakis
2011-04-22 22:10                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-04-25  6:28                                               ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-05-03  8:06                                                 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 11:01                                       ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:08                                         ` (unknown), Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:46                                           ` your mail Jan Kara
2011-05-03 13:56                                             ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:26                                               ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:36                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-05-03 15:43                                                 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 19:24                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06 15:20                                                     ` [RFC][PATCH] Do not accept a new handle when the F.S is frozen Surbhi Palande
2011-05-06 15:20                                                     ` [PATCH] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Surbhi Palande
2011-05-06 20:56                                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2011-05-07 20:04                                                         ` [PATCH v2] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-08  8:24                                                           ` Marco Stornelli
2011-05-09  9:04                                                             ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09  9:24                                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-05-09  9:53                                                           ` Jan Kara
2011-05-09 13:49                                                             ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 14:51                                                               ` [PATCH v3] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 15:08                                                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10 15:07                                                                   ` [PATCH] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-10 21:07                                                                     ` Andreas Dilger
2011-05-11  7:46                                                                       ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 15:23                                                                 ` [PATCH v3] " Eric Sandeen
2011-05-11  7:06                                                                   ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-11  7:10                                                                     ` [PATCH] Attempt to sync the fsstress writes to a frozen F.S Surbhi Palande
2011-05-12 14:22                                                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-24 21:42                                                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 12:00                                                                         ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-25 12:12                                                                           ` Theodore Tso
2011-05-27 16:28                                                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-05-11  9:05                                                                     ` [PATCH v3] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Andreas Dilger
2011-05-12  9:40                                                                       ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:08                                         ` [PATCH] Prevent dirtying a page when ext4 F.S is frozen Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:19                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] Re: [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock Jan Kara
2011-05-04 12:09                                           ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 19:19                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-05-04 21:34                                               ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 22:48                                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05  6:06                                                   ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-05 11:18                                                     ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 14:01                                                       ` Surbhi Palande
2011-03-31 23:40                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 23:53                   ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-01 14:08                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06  5:40                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06  6:18                       ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 11:21                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 13:44                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-06 22:59                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 17:40                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 22:54                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 21:33                               ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02  9:07                           ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 10:56                             ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 11:27                               ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 12:06                                 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 12:20                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 12:30                                   ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 13:16                                     ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 13:22                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:20                                         ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 14:41                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 16:23                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 16:38                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 13:22                                       ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 13:24                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 13:27                                           ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 14:26                                             ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 14:04                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-03  7:27                                           ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 20:14                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-04  8:26                                               ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 14:30                                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-02 14:01                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-05 10:44                   ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-12-09  1:56 ` Masayoshi MIZUMA
2011-12-15 12:41   ` Masayoshi MIZUMA
2013-11-29  4:58     ` Yongqiang Yang
2013-11-29  8:00       ` Jan Kara

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