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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	sandeen@redhat.com, DarkNovaNick@gmail.com, linux-lvm@redhat.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target]
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 08:48:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110502124803.GA31034@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1105021217080.3778@dhcp-27-109.brq.redhat.com>

On Mon, May 02 2011 at  6:24am -0400,
Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 May 2011, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:13:08AM +0100, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:16:21AM +0200, Lukas Czerner wrote:
> > > > However when we have dm device where part of the device supports
> > > > discard due to underlying hardware capability we just can not return
> > > > EOPNOTSUPP from blkdev_issue_discard, because it is just not true! 
> > > 
> > > EOPNOTSUPP from dm means the operation was not supported on that *one* bio.
> > > It does *not* tell you anything in general about the device, or whether
> > > you'd get the same error from different bios in future.
> > 
> > Exactly.  We already have the information in the queue limits to tell
> > the filesystem if discard is supported at all or not.
> > 
> 
> So I gave it a try. First of all the device composed of SSD and spinning
> disk does export discard_support information properly, however it also
> advertise discard_zeroes_data which is wrong and possibly dangerous and
> should be fixed!

You're effectively advocating that blk_stack_limits() needs to clear the
topmost device's discard_zeroes_data flag if any one bottom device does
not have discard_zeroes_data.

> And second of all, strictly speaking if EOPNOTSUPP from dm means that
> operation was not supported on that *one* bio, blkdev_issue_discard()
> should handle that and do not return EOPNOTSUPP further if queue limits
> tells that device has discard support. Is this acceptable solution for
> you guys ? I can make that change since I am changing blkdev_issue_discard()
> anyway. Or, we can make that change in filesystem where we disable
> discard on mount time, when we notice that discard mount option was
> specified, but the device does not support it (we should probably do
> this regardless on blkdev_issue_discard() change).

The blkdev_issue_discard() change you propose could be fine (mask
EOPNOTSUPP return if device advertises support for discards) -- though
Eric said we shouldn't ever say we did something when we didn't.

But that blkdev_issue_discard() change is really only safe if the
discard_zeroes_data flag is cleared by blk_stack_limits() if finds
inconsistent discard_zeroes_data support.

Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-02 12:48 UTC|newest]

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2011-04-28 20:59             ` do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target] Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 21:28               ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 22:59                 ` [linux-lvm] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-28 23:01                   ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 23:11                     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29  1:12               ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-29  9:30               ` Lukas Czerner
2011-04-29 12:24                 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29 12:29                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-29 14:28                     ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-29 15:13                       ` [linux-lvm] " Ray Morris
2011-05-04 16:33                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-04 16:51                         ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-04 16:57                           ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:02                         ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02  7:16                   ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02  8:13                     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-05-02  8:19                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 10:24                         ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 12:48                           ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2011-05-02 13:05                             ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:47                               ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-02 14:48                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:58                                 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 13:48                           ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:20                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:39                             ` [dm-devel] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:50                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:58                               ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 16:58                               ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-03  8:57                                 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 15:10                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:02                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 16:50                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 18:03                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 17:10                                     ` [dm-devel] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:32                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 17:35                                         ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-18 12:16                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-18 12:52                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 15:16                                   ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:12                                     ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-05  8:33                                     ` Karel Zak
2011-05-05 10:48                                       ` Lukas Czerner

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