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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 22:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110512203125.GL16531@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110512202917.GK16531@cmpxchg.org>

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:29:17PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:04:12PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 14:44 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 13:37 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 18:55 +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:43 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > > > However, since you admit even you see problems, let's concentrate on
> > > > > > fixing them rather than recriminations?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, please. So does dropping max_order to 1 help?
> > > > > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is set to 3 in 2.6.39-rc7.
> > > > 
> > > > Just booting with max_slab_order=1 (and none of the other patches
> > > > applied) I can still get the machine to go into kswapd at 99%, so it
> > > > doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you want me to try with the other two patches and max_slab_order=1?
> > > 
> > > OK, so patches 1 + 2 plus setting slub_max_order=1 still manages to
> > > trigger the problem (kswapd spinning at 99%).  This is still with
> > > PREEMPT; it's possible that non-PREEMPT might be better, so I'll try
> > > patches 1+2+3 with PREEMPT just to see if the perturbation is caused by
> > > it.
> > 
> > Confirmed, I'm afraid ... I can trigger the problem with all three
> > patches under PREEMPT.  It's not a hang this time, it's just kswapd
> > taking 100% system time on 1 CPU and it won't calm down after I unload
> > the system.

I am so sorry, I missed the "won't" here.  Please ignore.

> That is kind of expected, though.  If one CPU is busy with a streaming
> IO load generating new pages, kswapd is busy reclaiming the old ones
> so that the generator does not have to do the reclaim itself.
> 
> By unload, do you mean stopping the generator?  And if so, how quickly
> after you stop the generator does kswapd go back to sleep?

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-12 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11 15:29 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 21:10     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:25       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: slub: Default slub_max_order to 0 Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 20:38   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 20:53     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-11 21:09     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11 22:27       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 10:14         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16 21:03       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 19:25           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-12 14:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:15     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 15:43         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:46           ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:00             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:08               ` Dave Jones
2011-05-12 16:27               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:30                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 16:48                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 17:46                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:00                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:18                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 17:06                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:11                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 17:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:00                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13  9:49                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 16:39                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-16  8:42                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 17:51                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:03                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:09                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 18:16                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 18:36                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 17:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-12 15:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 18:37             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 18:46               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 19:21                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 19:44               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:04                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 20:29                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-05-12 20:31                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:04                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 22:15                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 22:58                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  5:39                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-13  0:47                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13  4:12                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:55                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:16                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 10:30                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13  6:16                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-13 10:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-12 16:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 17:37               ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12 15:45         ` Dave Jones
2011-05-11 21:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations James Bottomley
2011-05-11 22:28   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-11 22:34     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 11:13       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-12 13:19         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 14:04         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-12 15:53           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 11:25             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-12 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-05-13 11:24         ` Mel Gorman

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