From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext3: fix message in ext3_remount for rw-remount case
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:48:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110808124819.GA8919@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E3F65A0.9090109@jp.fujitsu.com>
Hello,
On Mon 08-08-11 13:27:12, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >On Wed 03-08-11 22:25:48, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
> >>On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:57:54 +0200
> >>Jan Kara<jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >>>>To tell the truth, I think the race creates the message:
> >>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> EXT3-fs:<dev>: couldn't remount RDWR because of
> >>>> unprocessed orphan inode list. Please umount/remount instead.
> >>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>which hides a serious problem.
> >>> I've inquired about this at linux-fsdevel (I think you were in CC unless
> >>>I forgot). It's a race in VFS remount code as you properly analyzed below.
> >>>People are working on fixing it but it's not trivial. Filesystem is really
> >>>a wrong place to fix such problem. If there is a trivial fix for ext3 to
> >>>workaround the issue, I can take it but I'm not willing to push anything
> >>>complex - effort should better be spent working on a generic fix.
> >>I also think read-only remount race in VFS layer should be fixed.
> >>However, I think this race depends on ext3/ext4 filesystem
> >>implementation. (Orphan inode list)
> >>So, we should modify ext3/ext4(jbd/jbd2) to fix it.
>
> > Umm, I don't understand here. If VFS makes sure that there are no
>
> After I saw the following messages, I thought we must fix EXT3-fs error
> at first. So, I created the fix patch.
>
> (1) kernel: EXT3-fs: <dev>: couldn't remount RDWR because of
> unprocessed orphan inode list. Please umount/remount instead.
> (2) kernel: EXT3-fs error (device <dev>) in start_transaction: Readonly filesystem
>
> I wasn't aware that by fixing the race between "ro-remount" and "unlink",
> that EXT3-fs error can be also fixed then.
>
> >files open for writing, no unfinished operations changing the filesystem (e.g.
> >unlink), and no open-but-unlinked files, what remains for ext3 to check?
> OK.
> Now, I also think we need not modify ext3 to fix these problems.
> If we can prevent to add an inode into the orphan list (to start unlinking)
> while ro-remounting, we can also prevent (1) and (2).
>
> However, new mechanism to confirm whether "no open-but-unlinked" files
> exist while ro-remounting is required, isn't it?
Yes. Actually, VFS already tracks open-but-unlinked files but the check &
remount pair is not atomic so that needs to be fixed and it is not that
simple.
Honza
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Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-08 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-01 4:54 [PATCH] ext3: fix message in ext3_remount for rw-remount case Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-01 8:45 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-01 9:45 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-01 9:57 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-02 9:14 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-03 2:42 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-03 9:57 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-03 13:25 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-03 16:25 ` Jan Kara
2011-08-08 4:27 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-08-08 12:48 ` Jan Kara [this message]
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