* [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks @ 2012-04-16 16:13 Jan Kara 2012-04-16 16:13 ` [PATCH 17/27] ext4: Convert to new freezing mechanism Jan Kara ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jan Kara @ 2012-04-16 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Al Viro Cc: dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Jan Kara, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel, David S. Miller, fuse-devel, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs, linux-ext4, linux-nfs, linux-nilfs, linux-ntfs-dev, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs Hello, here is the fifth iteration of my patches to improve filesystem freezing. No serious changes since last time. Mostly I rebased patches and merged this series with series moving file_update_time() to ->page_mkwrite() to simplify testing and merging. Filesystem freezing is currently racy and thus we can end up with dirty data on frozen filesystem (see changelog patch 13 for detailed race description). This patch series aims at fixing this. To be able to block all places where inodes get dirtied, I've moved filesystem file_update_time() call to ->page_mkwrite callback (patches 01-07) and put freeze handling in mnt_want_write() / mnt_drop_write(). That however required some code shuffling and changes to kern_path_create() (see patches 09-12). I think the result is OK but opinions may differ ;). The advantage of this change also is that all filesystems get freeze protection almost for free - even ext2 can handle freezing well now. Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), and then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is large enough). I'm not able to hit any deadlocks, lockdep warnings, or dirty data on frozen filesystem despite beating it with fsstress and bash-shared-mapping while freezing and unfreezing for several hours (using ext4 and xfs) so I'm reasonably confident this could finally be the right solution. Changes since v4: * added a couple of Acked-by's * added some comments & doc update * added patches from series "Push file_update_time() into .page_mkwrite" since it doesn't make much sense to keep them separate anymore * rebased on top of 3.4-rc2 Changes since v3: * added third level of freezing for fs internal purposes - hooked some filesystems to use it (XFS, nilfs2) * removed racy i_size check from filemap_mkwrite() Changes since v2: * completely rewritten * freezing is now blocked at VFS entry points * two stage freezing to handle both mmapped writes and other IO The biggest changes since v1: * have two counters to provide safe state transitions for SB_FREEZE_WRITE and SB_FREEZE_TRANS states * use percpu counters instead of own percpu structure * added documentation fixes from the old fs freezing series * converted XFS to use SB_FREEZE_TRANS counter instead of its private m_active_trans counter Honza CC: Alex Elder <elder@kernel.org> CC: Anton Altaparmakov <anton@tuxera.com> CC: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com> CC: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> CC: cluster-devel@redhat.com CC: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net> CC: fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net CC: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> CC: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org> CC: KONISHI Ryusuke <konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp> CC: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org CC: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org CC: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org CC: linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org CC: linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net CC: Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com> CC: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> CC: ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com CC: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp> CC: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com> CC: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> CC: xfs@oss.sgi.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [PATCH 17/27] ext4: Convert to new freezing mechanism 2012-04-16 16:13 [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks Jan Kara @ 2012-04-16 16:13 ` Jan Kara [not found] ` <1334592845-22862-1-git-send-email-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> 2012-04-16 22:02 ` Andreas Dilger 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jan Kara @ 2012-04-16 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Al Viro Cc: dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Jan Kara, linux-ext4, Theodore Ts'o We remove most of frozen checks since upper layer takes care of blocking all writes. We only have to handle protection in ext4_page_mkwrite() in a special way because we cannot use generic block_page_mkwrite(). CC: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org CC: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/897421 Tested-by: Kamal Mostafa <kamal@canonical.com> Tested-by: Peter M. Petrakis <peter.petrakis@canonical.com> Tested-by: Dann Frazier <dann.frazier@canonical.com> Tested-by: Massimo Morana <massimo.morana@canonical.com> Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> --- fs/ext4/inode.c | 7 ++----- fs/ext4/mmp.c | 14 ++++++++++---- fs/ext4/super.c | 31 +++++++------------------------ 3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-) diff --git a/fs/ext4/inode.c b/fs/ext4/inode.c index c77b0bd..bf568fb 100644 --- a/fs/ext4/inode.c +++ b/fs/ext4/inode.c @@ -4600,11 +4600,7 @@ int ext4_page_mkwrite(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_fault *vmf) get_block_t *get_block; int retries = 0; - /* - * This check is racy but catches the common case. We rely on - * __block_page_mkwrite() to do a reliable check. - */ - vfs_check_frozen(inode->i_sb, SB_FREEZE_WRITE); + sb_start_pagefault(inode->i_sb); /* Delalloc case is easy... */ if (test_opt(inode->i_sb, DELALLOC) && !ext4_should_journal_data(inode) && @@ -4672,5 +4668,6 @@ retry_alloc: out_ret: ret = block_page_mkwrite_return(ret); out: + sb_end_pagefault(inode->i_sb); return ret; } diff --git a/fs/ext4/mmp.c b/fs/ext4/mmp.c index ed6548d..4f63f90 100644 --- a/fs/ext4/mmp.c +++ b/fs/ext4/mmp.c @@ -10,14 +10,20 @@ * Write the MMP block using WRITE_SYNC to try to get the block on-disk * faster. */ -static int write_mmp_block(struct buffer_head *bh) +static int write_mmp_block(struct super_block *sb, struct buffer_head *bh) { + /* + * We protect against freezing so that we don't create dirty buffers + * on frozen filesystem. + */ + sb_start_write(sb); mark_buffer_dirty(bh); lock_buffer(bh); bh->b_end_io = end_buffer_write_sync; get_bh(bh); submit_bh(WRITE_SYNC, bh); wait_on_buffer(bh); + sb_end_write(sb); if (unlikely(!buffer_uptodate(bh))) return 1; @@ -120,7 +126,7 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data) mmp->mmp_time = cpu_to_le64(get_seconds()); last_update_time = jiffies; - retval = write_mmp_block(bh); + retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh); /* * Don't spew too many error messages. Print one every * (s_mmp_update_interval * 60) seconds. @@ -200,7 +206,7 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data) mmp->mmp_seq = cpu_to_le32(EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN); mmp->mmp_time = cpu_to_le64(get_seconds()); - retval = write_mmp_block(bh); + retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh); failed: kfree(data); @@ -299,7 +305,7 @@ skip: seq = mmp_new_seq(); mmp->mmp_seq = cpu_to_le32(seq); - retval = write_mmp_block(bh); + retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh); if (retval) goto failed; diff --git a/fs/ext4/super.c b/fs/ext4/super.c index ceebaf8..08c7326 100644 --- a/fs/ext4/super.c +++ b/fs/ext4/super.c @@ -290,33 +290,17 @@ static void ext4_put_nojournal(handle_t *handle) * journal_end calls result in the superblock being marked dirty, so * that sync() will call the filesystem's write_super callback if * appropriate. - * - * To avoid j_barrier hold in userspace when a user calls freeze(), - * ext4 prevents a new handle from being started by s_frozen, which - * is in an upper layer. */ handle_t *ext4_journal_start_sb(struct super_block *sb, int nblocks) { journal_t *journal; - handle_t *handle; trace_ext4_journal_start(sb, nblocks, _RET_IP_); if (sb->s_flags & MS_RDONLY) return ERR_PTR(-EROFS); + WARN_ON(sb->s_writers.frozen == SB_FREEZE_COMPLETE); journal = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_journal; - handle = ext4_journal_current_handle(); - - /* - * If a handle has been started, it should be allowed to - * finish, otherwise deadlock could happen between freeze - * and others(e.g. truncate) due to the restart of the - * journal handle if the filesystem is forzen and active - * handles are not stopped. - */ - if (!handle) - vfs_check_frozen(sb, SB_FREEZE_TRANS); - if (!journal) return ext4_get_nojournal(); /* @@ -2635,6 +2619,7 @@ static int ext4_run_li_request(struct ext4_li_request *elr) sb = elr->lr_super; ngroups = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_groups_count; + sb_start_write(sb); for (group = elr->lr_next_group; group < ngroups; group++) { gdp = ext4_get_group_desc(sb, group, NULL); if (!gdp) { @@ -2661,6 +2646,7 @@ static int ext4_run_li_request(struct ext4_li_request *elr) elr->lr_next_sched = jiffies + elr->lr_timeout; elr->lr_next_group = group + 1; } + sb_end_write(sb); return ret; } @@ -4137,10 +4123,8 @@ int ext4_force_commit(struct super_block *sb) return 0; journal = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_journal; - if (journal) { - vfs_check_frozen(sb, SB_FREEZE_TRANS); + if (journal) ret = ext4_journal_force_commit(journal); - } return ret; } @@ -4172,9 +4156,8 @@ static int ext4_sync_fs(struct super_block *sb, int wait) * gives us a chance to flush the journal completely and mark the fs clean. * * Note that only this function cannot bring a filesystem to be in a clean - * state independently, because ext4 prevents a new handle from being started - * by @sb->s_frozen, which stays in an upper layer. It thus needs help from - * the upper layer. + * state independently. It relies on upper layer to stop all data & metadata + * modifications. */ static int ext4_freeze(struct super_block *sb) { @@ -4201,7 +4184,7 @@ static int ext4_freeze(struct super_block *sb) EXT4_CLEAR_INCOMPAT_FEATURE(sb, EXT4_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_RECOVER); error = ext4_commit_super(sb, 1); out: - /* we rely on s_frozen to stop further updates */ + /* we rely on upper layer to stop further updates */ jbd2_journal_unlock_updates(EXT4_SB(sb)->s_journal); return error; } -- 1.7.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks [not found] ` <1334592845-22862-1-git-send-email-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-04-16 16:16 ` Jan Kara 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jan Kara @ 2012-04-16 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Al Viro Cc: dchinner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, LKML, linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Jan Kara, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, David S. Miller, fuse-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-ntfs-dev-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel-N0ozoZBvEnrZJqsBc5GL+g, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ The subject should have been [PATCH 00/27]... Sorry for the mistake. Honza On Mon 16-04-12 18:13:38, Jan Kara wrote: > Hello, > > here is the fifth iteration of my patches to improve filesystem freezing. > No serious changes since last time. Mostly I rebased patches and merged this > series with series moving file_update_time() to ->page_mkwrite() to simplify > testing and merging. > > Filesystem freezing is currently racy and thus we can end up with dirty data on > frozen filesystem (see changelog patch 13 for detailed race description). This > patch series aims at fixing this. > > To be able to block all places where inodes get dirtied, I've moved filesystem > file_update_time() call to ->page_mkwrite callback (patches 01-07) and put > freeze handling in mnt_want_write() / mnt_drop_write(). That however required > some code shuffling and changes to kern_path_create() (see patches 09-12). I > think the result is OK but opinions may differ ;). The advantage of this change > also is that all filesystems get freeze protection almost for free - even ext2 > can handle freezing well now. > > Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch we make > freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there are open but unlinked > files which may be impractical in some cases. The main reason for this is the > problem with handling of file deletion from fput() called with mmap_sem held > (e.g. from munmap(2)), and then there's the fact that we cannot really force > such filesystem into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing > with open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible > solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is large enough). > > I'm not able to hit any deadlocks, lockdep warnings, or dirty data on frozen > filesystem despite beating it with fsstress and bash-shared-mapping while > freezing and unfreezing for several hours (using ext4 and xfs) so I'm > reasonably confident this could finally be the right solution. > > Changes since v4: > * added a couple of Acked-by's > * added some comments & doc update > * added patches from series "Push file_update_time() into .page_mkwrite" > since it doesn't make much sense to keep them separate anymore > * rebased on top of 3.4-rc2 > > Changes since v3: > * added third level of freezing for fs internal purposes - hooked some > filesystems to use it (XFS, nilfs2) > * removed racy i_size check from filemap_mkwrite() > > Changes since v2: > * completely rewritten > * freezing is now blocked at VFS entry points > * two stage freezing to handle both mmapped writes and other IO > > The biggest changes since v1: > * have two counters to provide safe state transitions for SB_FREEZE_WRITE > and SB_FREEZE_TRANS states > * use percpu counters instead of own percpu structure > * added documentation fixes from the old fs freezing series > * converted XFS to use SB_FREEZE_TRANS counter instead of its private > m_active_trans counter > > Honza > > CC: Alex Elder <elder-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > CC: Anton Altaparmakov <anton-yrGDUoBaLx3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> > CC: Ben Myers <bpm-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org> > CC: Chris Mason <chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> > CC: cluster-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org > CC: "David S. Miller" <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org> > CC: fuse-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > CC: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> > CC: Joel Becker <jlbec-aKy9MeLSZ9dg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> > CC: KONISHI Ryusuke <konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org> > CC: linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > CC: linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > CC: linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > CC: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > CC: linux-ntfs-dev-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > CC: Mark Fasheh <mfasheh-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org> > CC: Miklos Szeredi <miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org> > CC: ocfs2-devel-N0ozoZBvEnrZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org > CC: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi-UIVanBePwB70ZhReMnHkpc8NsWr+9BEh@public.gmane.org> > CC: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> > CC: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org> > CC: xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org -- Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> SUSE Labs, CR -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks 2012-04-16 16:13 [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks Jan Kara 2012-04-16 16:13 ` [PATCH 17/27] ext4: Convert to new freezing mechanism Jan Kara [not found] ` <1334592845-22862-1-git-send-email-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-04-16 22:02 ` Andreas Dilger 2012-04-17 0:43 ` Dave Chinner 2012-04-17 9:32 ` Jan Kara 2 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Andreas Dilger @ 2012-04-16 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Kara Cc: Al Viro, dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel, David S. Miller, fuse-devel, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs, linux-ext4, linux-nfs, linux-nilfs, linux-ntfs-dev, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs On 2012-04-16, at 9:13 AM, Jan Kara wrote: > Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch > we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there > are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. > The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion > from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), and > then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem > into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with > open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible > solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is > large enough). Looking at a desktop system, I think it is very typical that there are open-unlinked files present, so I don't know if this is really an acceptable solution. It isn't clear from your comments whether this is a blanket refusal for all open-unlinked files, or only in some particular cases... lsof | grep deleted nautilus 25393 adilger 19r REG 253,0 340 253954 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home (deleted) nautilus 25393 adilger 20r REG 253,0 32768 253964 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-f332a8f3.log (deleted) gnome-ter 25623 adilger 22u REG 0,18 17841 2717846 /tmp/vtePIRJCW (deleted) gnome-ter 25623 adilger 23u REG 0,18 5568 2717847 /tmp/vteDCSJCW (deleted) gnome-ter 25623 adilger 29u REG 0,18 480 2728484 /tmp/vte6C1TCW (deleted) Cheers, Andreas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks 2012-04-16 22:02 ` Andreas Dilger @ 2012-04-17 0:43 ` Dave Chinner 2012-04-17 5:10 ` Andreas Dilger 2012-04-17 9:32 ` Jan Kara 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Chinner @ 2012-04-17 0:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Dilger Cc: Jan Kara, Al Viro, dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel, David S. Miller, fuse-devel, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs, linux-ext4, linux-nfs, linux-nilfs, linux-ntfs-dev, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 03:02:50PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On 2012-04-16, at 9:13 AM, Jan Kara wrote: > > Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch > > we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there > > are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. > > The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion > > from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), and > > then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem > > into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with > > open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible > > solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is > > large enough). > > Looking at a desktop system, I think it is very typical that there > are open-unlinked files present, so I don't know if this is really > an acceptable solution. It isn't clear from your comments whether > this is a blanket refusal for all open-unlinked files, or only in > some particular cases... > > lsof | grep deleted > nautilus 25393 adilger 19r REG 253,0 340 253954 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home (deleted) > nautilus 25393 adilger 20r REG 253,0 32768 253964 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-f332a8f3.log (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 22u REG 0,18 17841 2717846 /tmp/vtePIRJCW (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 23u REG 0,18 5568 2717847 /tmp/vteDCSJCW (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 29u REG 0,18 480 2728484 /tmp/vte6C1TCW (deleted) Unlinked-but-open files are the reason that XFS dirties the log after the freeze process is complete. This ensures that if the system crashes while the filesystem is frozen then log recovery during the next mount will process the unlinked (orphaned) inodes and free the correctly. i.e. you can still freeze a filesystem with inodes in this state successfully and have everythign behave as you'd expect. I'm not sure how other filesystems handle this problem, but perhaps pushing this check down into filesystem specific code or adding a superblock feature flag might be a way to allow filesystems to handle this case in the way they think is best... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks 2012-04-17 0:43 ` Dave Chinner @ 2012-04-17 5:10 ` Andreas Dilger 2012-04-18 0:46 ` Chris Samuel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Andreas Dilger @ 2012-04-17 5:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dave Chinner Cc: Jan Kara, J. Bruce Fields, ocfs2-devel-N0ozoZBvEnrZJqsBc5GL+g, KONISHI Ryusuke, OGAWA Hirofumi, linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Miklos Szeredi, cluster-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, Anton Altaparmakov, linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, fuse-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Mark Fasheh, xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ, Ben Myers, Joel Becker, dchinner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, Steven Whitehouse, Chris Mason, linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Alex Elder, Theodore Ts'o, linux-ntfs-dev-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, LKML, Al Viro, linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, David S. Miller, linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29Tb/PtFMR13I2A On 2012-04-16, at 5:43 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 03:02:50PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: >> On 2012-04-16, at 9:13 AM, Jan Kara wrote: >>> Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch >>> we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there >>> are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. >>> The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), >>> and then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem >>> into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with >>> open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible >>> solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is >>> large enough). >> >> Looking at a desktop system, I think it is very typical that there >> are open-unlinked files present, so I don't know if this is really >> an acceptable solution. It isn't clear from your comments whether >> this is a blanket refusal for all open-unlinked files, or only in >> some particular cases... > > Unlinked-but-open files are the reason that XFS dirties the log > after the freeze process is complete. This ensures that if the > system crashes while the filesystem is frozen then log recovery > during the next mount will process the unlinked (orphaned) inodes > and free the correctly. i.e. you can still freeze a filesystem with > inodes in this state successfully and have everythign behave as > you'd expect. > > I'm not sure how other filesystems handle this problem, but perhaps > pushing this check down into filesystem specific code or adding a > superblock feature flag might be a way to allow filesystems to > handle this case in the way they think is best... The ext3/4 code has long been able to handle open-unlinked files properly after a crash (they are put into a singly-linked list from the superblock on disk that is processed after journal recovery). The issue here is that blocking freeze from succeeding with open- unlinked files is an unreasonable assumption of this patch, and I don't think it is acceptable to land this patchset (which IMHO would prevent nearly every Gnome system from freezing unless these apps have changed their behaviour in more recent releases). Like you suggest, filesystems that handle this correctly should be able to flag or otherwise indicate that this is OK, and allow the freeze to continue. For other filesystems that do not handle open-unlinked file consistency during a filesystem freeze/snapshot whether this should even be considered a new case, or is something that has existed for ages already. The other question is whether this is still a problem even for filesystems handling the consistency issue, but from Jan's comment above there is a new locking issue related to mmap_sem being added? Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger Whamcloud, Inc. Principal Lustre Engineer http://www.whamcloud.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks 2012-04-17 5:10 ` Andreas Dilger @ 2012-04-18 0:46 ` Chris Samuel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Chris Samuel @ 2012-04-18 0:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Dilger Cc: Dave Chinner, Jan Kara, Al Viro, dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel, David S. Miller, fuse-devel, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs, linux-ext4, linux-nfs, linux-nilfs, linux-ntfs-dev, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse On 17/04/12 15:10, Andreas Dilger wrote: > (which IMHO would prevent nearly every Gnome system from freezing unless these > apps have changed their behaviour in more recent releases). It would also affect current KDE desktops as they tend to use MySQL for Akonadi & Nepomuk, plus anyone using Chromium (and presumably Chrome): samuel@eris:/tmp$ sudo lsof | grep deleted | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c [sudo] password for samuel: 32 chromium- 1 dovecot 5 imap-logi 5 mysqld I would be surprised if you could find many systems that didn't have files in this situation. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks 2012-04-16 22:02 ` Andreas Dilger 2012-04-17 0:43 ` Dave Chinner @ 2012-04-17 9:32 ` Jan Kara [not found] ` <20120417093246.GD7198-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jan Kara @ 2012-04-17 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Dilger Cc: Jan Kara, Al Viro, dchinner, LKML, linux-fsdevel, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel, David S. Miller, fuse-devel, J. Bruce Fields, Joel Becker, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs, linux-ext4, linux-nfs, linux-nilfs, linux-ntfs-dev, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs On Mon 16-04-12 15:02:50, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On 2012-04-16, at 9:13 AM, Jan Kara wrote: > > Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch > > we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there > > are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. > > The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion > > from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), and > > then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem > > into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with > > open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible > > solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is > > large enough). > > Looking at a desktop system, I think it is very typical that there > are open-unlinked files present, so I don't know if this is really > an acceptable solution. It isn't clear from your comments whether > this is a blanket refusal for all open-unlinked files, or only in > some particular cases... Thanks for looking at this. It is currently a blanket refusal. And I agree it's problematic. There are two problems with open but unlinked files. One is that some old filesystems cannot get in a consistent state in presence of open but unlinked files but for filesystems we really care about - xfs, ext4, ext3, btrfs, or even ocfs2, gfs2 - that is not a real issue (these filesystems will delete those inodes on next mount read-write). The other problem is with what should happen when you put last inode reference on a frozen filesystem. Two possibilities I see are: a) block the iput() call - that is inconvenient because it can be called in various contexts. I think we could possibly use the same level of freeze protection as for page fault (this has changed since I originally thought about this and that would make things simpler) but I'm not completely sure. b) let the iput finish but filesystem will keep inode on its orphan list (or it's equivalent) and the inode will be deleted after the filesystem is thawed. The advantage of this is we don't have to block iput(), the disadvantage is we have to have filesystem support and not all filesystems can do this. Any thoughts? Honza > > lsof | grep deleted > nautilus 25393 adilger 19r REG 253,0 340 253954 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home (deleted) > nautilus 25393 adilger 20r REG 253,0 32768 253964 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-f332a8f3.log (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 22u REG 0,18 17841 2717846 /tmp/vtePIRJCW (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 23u REG 0,18 5568 2717847 /tmp/vteDCSJCW (deleted) > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 29u REG 0,18 480 2728484 /tmp/vte6C1TCW (deleted) -- Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> SUSE Labs, CR ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH 00/19 v5] Fix filesystem freezing deadlocks [not found] ` <20120417093246.GD7198-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-04-17 19:34 ` Joel Becker 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Joel Becker @ 2012-04-17 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Kara Cc: Andreas Dilger, Al Viro, dchinner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, LKML, linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Alex Elder, Anton Altaparmakov, Ben Myers, Chris Mason, cluster-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA, David S. Miller, fuse-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, J. Bruce Fields, KONISHI Ryusuke, linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-ntfs-dev-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Mark Fasheh, Miklos Szeredi, ocfs2-devel-N0ozoZBvEnrZJqsBc5GL+g, OGAWA Hirofumi, Steven Whitehouse, Theodore Ts'o, xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:32:46AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > On Mon 16-04-12 15:02:50, Andreas Dilger wrote: > > On 2012-04-16, at 9:13 AM, Jan Kara wrote: > > > Another potential contention point might be patch 19. In that patch > > > we make freeze_super() refuse to freeze the filesystem when there > > > are open but unlinked files which may be impractical in some cases. > > > The main reason for this is the problem with handling of file deletion > > > from fput() called with mmap_sem held (e.g. from munmap(2)), and > > > then there's the fact that we cannot really force such filesystem > > > into a consistent state... But if people think that freezing with > > > open but unlinked files should happen, then I have some possible > > > solutions in mind (maybe as a separate patchset since this is > > > large enough). > > > > Looking at a desktop system, I think it is very typical that there > > are open-unlinked files present, so I don't know if this is really > > an acceptable solution. It isn't clear from your comments whether > > this is a blanket refusal for all open-unlinked files, or only in > > some particular cases... > Thanks for looking at this. It is currently a blanket refusal. And I > agree it's problematic. There are two problems with open but unlinked > files. Let me add my name to the chorus of "we have to handle freezing with open+unlinked, we cannot assume they don't exist." > One is that some old filesystems cannot get in a consistent state in > presence of open but unlinked files but for filesystems we really care > about - xfs, ext4, ext3, btrfs, or even ocfs2, gfs2 - that is not a real > issue (these filesystems will delete those inodes on next mount read-write). Others have pointed out that we can flag the safe filesystems. I'd even be willing to say you can't freeze the unsafe filesystems. > The other problem is with what should happen when you put last inode > reference on a frozen filesystem. Two possibilities I see are: > > a) block the iput() call - that is inconvenient because it can be > called in various contexts. I think we could possibly use the same level of > freeze protection as for page fault (this has changed since I originally > thought about this and that would make things simpler) but I'm not > completely sure. Given that frozen filesystems can stay that way for a while, couldn't that lead to a million frozen df(1)s? It's like your average NFS network failure. > b) let the iput finish but filesystem will keep inode on its orphan list > (or it's equivalent) and the inode will be deleted after the filesystem is > thawed. The advantage of this is we don't have to block iput(), the > disadvantage is we have to have filesystem support and not all filesystems > can do this. Perhaps we handle iput() like unlinked. If the filesystem can handle it, we allow it, otherwise we block. Joel > > Any thoughts? > > Honza > > > > lsof | grep deleted > > nautilus 25393 adilger 19r REG 253,0 340 253954 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home (deleted) > > nautilus 25393 adilger 20r REG 253,0 32768 253964 /home/adilger/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-f332a8f3.log (deleted) > > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 22u REG 0,18 17841 2717846 /tmp/vtePIRJCW (deleted) > > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 23u REG 0,18 5568 2717847 /tmp/vteDCSJCW (deleted) > > gnome-ter 25623 adilger 29u REG 0,18 480 2728484 /tmp/vte6C1TCW (deleted) > > -- > Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> > SUSE Labs, CR -- "The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his weight." - Theodore Roosevelt http://www.jlbec.org/ jlbec-aKy9MeLSZ9dg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nilfs" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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