From: Josef Bacik <josef-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>,
Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh-C4P08NqkoRlBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org,
jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: fix how i_version is modified and turn it on by default V2
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 17:08:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120515210815.GE1907@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515210029.GA11932-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 05:00:29PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:05:34PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:55:33PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > > It should be fairly straight forward to have a flag set in the ext4
> > > superblock (s_state flag?) that indicates that the filesystem has
> > > been exported via NFS. There might be other optimizations that can
> > > be done based on this (e.g. avoid some of the directory cookie
> > > hijinx that are only needed if NFS has exported the filesystem and
> > > needs to keep persistent cookies across reboots).
> > >
> > > I think that the ext4_mark_inode_dirty() performance problem could
> > > be at least partially fixed by deferring the copy of in-core inode
> > > to on-disk inode to use a journal commit callback. This is far more
> > > work than just setting a flag in the superblock, but it has the
> > > potential to _improve_ performance rather than make it worse.
>
> Could you give any more pointers for an ext4 ignoramus? (Where *is* the
> journal commit code that would need the callback? And where is the copy
> currently done?)
>
The copy is currently done in mark_inode_dirty(), I'm looking into what would
need to be done to get the inodes to update the on disk stuff on journal commit
only, but I worry that will make commits take way longer than normal and cause
other issues.
> > Yeah Btrfs doesn't have this sort of problem since we delay inode
> > updating sinc it is so costly, we simply let it hang around in the
> > in-core inode until we feel like updating it at some point down the
> > road. I'll put together a feature flag or something to make it be
> > enabled for always if somebody turns it on.
>
> Thanks for looking at this.
>
> A feature flag would be an improvement over a mount option.
>
> If the flag makes a noticeable difference to performance, then it makes
> me nervous toggling it automatically. And what will we do if statx
> starts returning i_version to userspace?
>
Well statx can return flags right? I'm sure we could just have a flag that says
"hey iversion is completely useless." Thanks,
Josef
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-15 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-15 14:33 [PATCH] ext4: fix how i_version is modified and turn it on by default V2 Josef Bacik
2012-05-15 15:18 ` Jan Kara
2012-05-15 17:53 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120515175308.GB1907-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 18:17 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-15 18:29 ` Josef Bacik
2012-05-15 19:55 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <AB91C817-DFEE-415F-8769-78831D72C6B7-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 20:05 ` Josef Bacik
[not found] ` <20120515200533.GD1907-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 21:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20120515210029.GA11932-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 21:08 ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2012-05-15 22:19 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <20120515182914.GC1907-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 20:24 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-16 1:36 ` Ted Ts'o
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