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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alex Lemberg <Alex.Lemberg@sandisk.com>,
	HYOJIN JEONG <syr.jeong@samsung.com>,
	Saugata Das <saugata.das@linaro.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	Saugata Das <saugata.das@stericsson.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, patches@linaro.org, venkat@linaro.org,
	"Luca Porzio (lporzio)" <lporzio@micron.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ext4: Context support
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 07:28:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201206160728.08687.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201206160714.01830.arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>

On Saturday 16 June 2012, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 15 June 2012, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > > Oh, that's cool.  And I don't think that's hard to do.  We could just
> > > keep a flag in the in-core inode indicating whether it is in "large
> > > unit" mode.  If it is in large unit mode, we can make the fs writeback
> > > function make sure that we adhere to the restrictions of the large
> > > unit mode, and if at any point we need to do something that might
> > > violate the constraints, the file system would simply close the
> > > context.
> > 
> > This is very similar to what was implemented in mballoc preallocation.
> > Large files will get their own preallocation context, while small files
> > would share a context (i.e. an 8MB extent) and be packed densely into
> > this extent to avoid seeking.  It wouldn't be unreasonable to just give
> > each mballoc context a different eMMC context.
> 
> My understanding is that once we do that, we have already won much more
> than we can by using contexts, because we get perfect write patterns.
> The only thing that contexts would still buy us is that the device has
> more freedom to cache things separately in each context if we write
> with less than superpage alignment.

Sorry, I replied in the wrong order and had not actually read what Ted
said about actually being able to use the large-unit contexts. If we use
large-unit contexts in write-only mode, that would indeed be a way for
the device to get significantly better than if we just do the alignment.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-16  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-11 10:46 [PATCH 1/3] block: Context support Saugata Das
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] ext4: " Saugata Das
2012-06-11 11:41   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-11 12:27     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 12:21       ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 12:32         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 13:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 14:26           ` Saugata Das
2012-06-12 14:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 18:19               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-12 20:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-12 20:41                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 19:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-13 20:00                       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-13 20:43                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14  2:07                           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 16:14                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-14 16:24                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-14 17:05                               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-14 19:08                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-15  9:19                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 21:30                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16  6:49                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-14 21:55                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15  5:18                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15  9:25                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15  9:40                                   ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-15 10:54                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-15 22:04                               ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-15 22:25                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-06-16  7:14                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16  7:28                                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-06-16  7:26                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-16 13:49                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-16 17:41                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-18 17:42                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 15:17                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-20 15:09                                           ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-20 15:46                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-06-22 13:29                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-06-22 14:07                         ` Luca Porzio (lporzio)
2012-06-11 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: " Saugata Das

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