From: Zheng Liu <gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:37:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130129083700.GA31325@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y5fce8rq.fsf@openvz.org>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:41:13AM +0400, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:38:36 -0500, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:02:55PM +0400, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> > > Actually this patch consists of two peaces
> > > 1) disable merging of uninitialized extents. (1 line change) I'm
> > > absolutely agree with it.
> >
> > To be clear, that's this patch chunk (one line change not including
> > comments :-), right?
> Off course.
> >
> > --- a/fs/ext4/extents.c
> > +++ b/fs/ext4/extents.c
> > @@ -1579,11 +1576,13 @@ int
> > ext4_can_extents_be_merged(struct inode *inode, struct ext4_extent *ex1,
> > struct ext4_extent *ex2)
> > {
> >
> > /*
> > - * Make sure that either both extents are uninitialized, or
> > - * both are _not_.
> > + * Make sure that both extents are initialized. We don't merge
> > + * uninitialized extents so that we can be sure that end_io code has
> > + * the extent that was written properly split out and conversion to
> > + * initialized is trivial.
> > */
> > - if (ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex1) ^ ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex2))
> > + if (ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex1) || ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex2))
> > return 0;
> >
> >
> > The one thing I'm a bit worried about is how much worse will extent
> > fragmentation be once we do this, but it's clear we need to strive for
> > correctness first.
> This change should not affect fragmentation because
> 1) Most people call fallocate(2) on big chunks (>4M)
> 2) Once uninitialized extent filled with data and converted to
> initialized extents will be merged immediately.
> 3) Most people use fallocate(2) for preallocation before write(2)
> so effectively calls are interleaved so merging works as expected.
>
> The only case where fragmentation will increase is when someone
> performs many fallocate(2) calls for small chunks (4k) w/o writes.
> As result leaf block will consist of 256 extents 4k each.
> Later writes can't help us because we can not merge extents from two
> leaf blocks. But I still think that this use case it inconvenient.
Yes, I doubt that no one does like this because it can not brings any
benefit. We usually call fallocate(2) to preallocate some sequential
spaces. Obviously preallocating a small chunk is useless.
>
> BTW why do we not try to merge extents from two leaf blocs?
> I do not see any technical difficulties. If two adjacent leaf blocks
> are covered by common index block merging is possible (but we need +1
> journal block).
Yep, I also notice this. I don't think there is a technical difficulty.
That would be great if two adjacent leaf blocks could be merged.
Regards,
- Zheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-29 8:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-18 12:00 [PATCH 0/12 v2] ext4: Several simplifications and fixes Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 01/12] ext4: Always use ext4_bio_write_page() for writeout Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:31 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 02/12] ext4: Use redirty_page_for_writepage() in ext4_bio_write_page() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 03/12] ext4: Remove bogus wait for unwritten extents in ext4_ind_direct_IO Jan Kara
2013-01-22 11:11 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-22 13:44 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 14:12 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-22 15:21 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 14:22 ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-22 15:22 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 16:00 ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-22 23:14 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-23 6:11 ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-23 9:42 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents Jan Kara
2013-01-24 9:49 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-24 15:12 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-24 15:32 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-28 14:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-28 15:02 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-28 15:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-29 7:41 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-29 8:37 ` Zheng Liu [this message]
2013-01-31 7:47 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-31 12:39 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-31 14:09 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-31 16:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 17:10 ` REGRESSION: " Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-12 21:58 ` Jan Kara
2013-02-13 4:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 7:26 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-02-13 15:08 ` Merge window planning for ext4 and Ted's vacation Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-14 10:47 ` REGRESSION: [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents Jan Kara
2013-02-14 16:11 ` Jan Kara
2013-02-14 19:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-14 21:32 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 05/12] ext4: Remove unnecessary wait for extent conversion in ext4_fallocate() Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 06/12] ext4: Move work from io_end to inode Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:45 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 07/12] ext4: Simplify list handling in ext4_do_flush_completed_IO() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:51 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 08/12] ext4: Remove __ext4_journalled_writepage() from mpage_da_submit_io() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 09/12] ext4: Dirty page has always buffers attached Jan Kara
2013-01-28 17:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 10/12] ext4: Simplify mpage_add_bh_to_extent() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 18:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 11/12] ext4: Make ext4_bio_writepage() handle unprepared buffers Jan Kara
2013-01-29 1:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 12/12] ext4: Fix ext4_writepage() to achieve data=ordered guarantees Jan Kara
2013-01-29 2:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
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