From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
Cc: Robert Mueller <robm@fastmail.fm>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
Linux Ext4 mailing list <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: fallocate creating fragmented files
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:55:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130201135558.GA1438@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1359718401.21008.140661185473973.37F5D749@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 10:33:21PM +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>
> In particular, the way that Cyrus works seems entirely suboptimal for ext4.
> The index and database files receive very small appends (108 byte per message
> for the index, and probably just a few hundred per write for most of the the
> twoskip databases), and they happen pretty much randomly to one of tens of
> thousands of these little files, depending which mailbox received the message.
Are all of these files in a single directory? If so, that's part of
the problem, since ext[34] uses the directory structure to try to
spread apart unrelated files, so that hueristic can't be easily used
if all of the files are in a single directory.
> Here's the same experiment on a "fresh" filesystem. I created this by taking
> a server down, copying the entire contents of the SSD to a spare piece of rust,
> reformatting, and copying it all back (cp -a). So the data on there is the
> same, just the allocations have changed.
>
> [brong@imap15 conf]$ fallocate -l 20m testfile
> [brong@imap15 conf]$ filefrag -v testfile
> Filesystem type is: ef53
> File size of testfile is 20971520 (20480 blocks, blocksize 1024)
> ext logical physical expected length flags
> 0 0 22913025 8182 unwritten
> 1 8182 22921217 22921207 8182 unwritten
> 2 16364 22929409 22929399 4116 unwritten,eof
> testfile: 3 extents found
>
> As you can see, that's slightly more optimal. I'm assuming 8182 is the
> maximum number of contiguous blocks before you hit an assigned metadata
> location and have to skip over it.
Is there a reason why you are using a 1k block size? The size of a
block group is 8192 blocks for 1k blocks (or 8 megabytes), while with
a 4k block size, the size of a block group is 32768 blocks (or 128
megabytes). In general the ext4 file system is going to be far more
efficient with a 4k block size.
Regards,
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-01 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-30 5:46 fallocate creating fragmented files Bron Gondwana
2013-01-30 6:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-01-30 6:35 ` Bron Gondwana
2013-01-30 15:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-01-30 20:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-30 21:21 ` Robert Mueller
2013-01-30 21:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-30 22:40 ` Bron Gondwana
2013-01-30 22:49 ` Robert Mueller
2013-01-30 22:51 ` Robert Mueller
2013-02-01 11:33 ` Bron Gondwana
2013-02-01 13:55 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-02-02 10:50 ` Bron Gondwana
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