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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/12] ext4: pass context information to jbd2__journal_start()
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:13:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130211181335.GA8724@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130211161634.GI5318@quack.suse.cz>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 05:16:34PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > postmark-2917  [000] ....   196.435786: jbd2_handle_stats: dev 254,32
> >    tid 570 type 2 line_no 2541 interval 311 sync 0 requested_blocks 1
> >    dirtied_blocks 0
>   Nice! I'm just wondering - won't it be easier if we just stored a pointer
> to __FILE__ in the handle? We wouldn't have to define those transaction
> types and think which one to use when coding. Also checking the trace point
> output would be simpler. I guess using __FILE__ will increase kernel size
> due to additional string constants as gcc isn't clever enough to merge
> identical strings. But we could workaround that defining in every ext4
> file:

One of the reasons why I originally started with using an integer type
was that I was originally thinking about calculating handle-level
statistics (max hold time, average hold time, etc., and keeping those
statistics on a per-class basis).  So having an integer type number
was useful for that purpose.

Once I figured out that you could do things specify constraints such
as "interval > 5", the desire to do kernel-level statistics became
less urgent for me, since it's really finding the "long pole" handle
hold times which are most interesting.  I still might want to some
kernel-level statistics which are broken down by type, since once we
eliminate the long pole, knowing what the average handle hold times
are could still be useful/interesting.

Another downside of using a pointer to __FILE__, or some static
character pointer, is that it doesn't work for the applications such
as perf (and I think ftrace, although I'm not certain about the ftrace
tool, since I never use it) can't handle printing the char *, since
they use the ring buffer syscall directly instead of using the
TP_printk statement.  So all they get is a kernel address, and
something which is useful to decode.

But for users who are using the /sys/kernel/debug/tracing interface
via echo and cat, I do agree that using a static char *JBD_FILE so
that /sys/kernel/debug/trace has real file names would be a bit more
convenient for them.

					- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-11 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-09 21:53 [PATCH 00/12] jbd2 optimization and bug fixes Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 01/12] jbd2: track request delay statistics Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 15:57   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 02/12] jbd2: revert "jbd2: add COW fields to struct jbd2_journal_handle" Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 15:58   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 03/12] jbd2: add tracepoints which provide per-handle statistics Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 04/12] ext4: move the jbd2 wrapper functions out of super.c Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 05/12] ext4: pass context information to jbd2__journal_start() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:16   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-11 18:13     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-02-11 19:58       ` Jan Kara
2013-02-11 20:14         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 06/12] ext4: grab page before starting transaction handle in write_begin() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:35   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 07/12] ext4: start handle at the last possible moment in ext4_unlink() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:21   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 08/12] ext4: start handle at the last possible moment in ext4_rmdir() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:22   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 09/12] ext4: fix the number of credits needed for ext4_ext_migrate() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:26   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 10/12] ext4: fix the number of credits needed for ext4_unlink() and ext4_rmdir() Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:28   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-11 18:30     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 19:30       ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 11/12] ext4: fix the number of credits needed for acl ops with inline data Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-10 13:42   ` Tao Ma
2013-02-10 18:15     ` Shentino
2013-02-10 19:43       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:16         ` Andreas Dilger
2013-02-11 16:30   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-09 21:53 ` [PATCH 12/12] ext4: start handle at the last possible moment when creating inodes Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11  1:47   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 16:00   ` Andreas Dilger
2013-02-11 15:52 ` [PATCH 00/12] jbd2 optimization and bug fixes Jan Kara

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