From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Subranshu Patel <spatel.ml@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Large buffer cache in EXT4
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:25:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201302171125.40116.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEUQcegw=gq9ndo=Zd4xC2gJDZrRzNpS2hAZW9x5Lh=KL_YDHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2013 schrieb Subranshu Patel:
> I created 2 filesystem on my system (RHEL 6.3, kernel version 2.6.32)
> - XFS and EXT4 and mounted them.
>
> On both the filesystem I executed the mdtest tool(opensource tool) for
> 64 concurrent process. Each process performed the following:
> - Create large number of directories
> - Remove all the directories
>
> During this time I monitored the memory usage of the system using sar
> command. I checked the 3 components - kbmemused, kbbuffers and
> kbcached
>
> kbmemused - Amount of used memory in kilobytes. This does not take
> into account memory used by the kernel itself.
> kbbuffers - buffer cache
> kbcached - page cache
>
> While the kbmemused and kbcached component was almost similar in EXT4
> and XFS (XFS being a little higher), the kbbuffer showed a totally
> different trend.
>
> For EXT4, kbbuffers was:
> 390999KB for dir creation
> 364803KB for dir removal
> For XFS, kbbuffers was:
>
> 1701KB for dir creation
> 2738KB for dir removal
>
> In kernel 2.6, both buffer cache and page cache are merged. The page
> cache caches pages of files. The buffer cache caches disk blocks which
> consists of mainly metadata (not file data).
>
> Why is the buffer cache large in case of EXT4 and what is stored in
> the buffer cache?
What is stored in the buffer cache? An interesting question. I also wondered
about it.
I always thought filesystem metadata that is to be written to the disk. As
opposed to dirty pages which are counted in Dirty: in /proc/meminfo.
Then on being asked in a Linux Performance Analyse and Tuning training I
held where I had some little Linux kernel hackers in there, it seemed to me,
they found out, that it is a disk block buffer by looking at the source. And
indeed on doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/somedevice bs=1M or so the buffer
count raises considerably.
What I never really understand was what is the clear distinction between
dirty pages and disk block buffers. Why isn´t anything that is about to be
written to disk in one cache?
Can anybody enlighten me?
PS: buffers=0 with BTRFS also.
Thanks,
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-17 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-17 4:04 Large buffer cache in EXT4 Subranshu Patel
2013-02-17 6:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-02-17 10:19 ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-02-18 15:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-02-17 10:25 ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2013-02-18 4:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-18 13:16 ` Martin Steigerwald
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