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From: Zheng Liu <gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: ext4 extent status tree LRU locking
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:03:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130612160320.GA29156@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B88F1A.5000909@intel.com>

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:09:14AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 06/12/2013 12:17 AM, Zheng Liu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 04:22:16PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> I've got a test case which I intended to use to stress the VM a bit.  It
> >> fills memory up with page cache a couple of times.  It essentially runs
> >> 30 or so cp's in parallel.
> > 
> > Could you please share your test case with me? I am glad to look at it
> > and think about how to improve LRU locking.
> 
> I'll look in to giving you the actual test case.  But I'm not sure of
> the licensing on it.

That would be great if you could share it.

> 
> Essentially, the test creates an (small (~256MB) ext4 fs on a
> loopback-mounted ramfs device.  It then goes and creates 160 64GB sparse
> files (one per cpu) and then cp's them all to /dev/null.

Thanks for letting me know.

> 
> >> 98% of my CPU is system time, and 96% of _that_ is being spent on the
> >> spinlock in ext4_es_lru_add().  I think the LRU list head and its lock
> >> end up being *REALLY* hot cachelines and are *the* bottleneck on this
> >> test.  Note that this is _before_ we go in to reclaim and actually start
> >> calling in to the shrinker.  There is zero memory pressure in this test.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure the benefits of having a proper in-order LRU during reclaim
> >> outweigh such a drastic downside for the common case.
> > 
> > A proper in-order LRU can help us to reclaim some memory from extent
> > status tree when we are under heavy memory pressure.  When shrinker
> > tries to reclaim extents from these trees, some extents of files that
> > are accessed infrequnetly will be reclaimed because we hope that
> > frequently accessed files' extents can be kept in memory as much as
> > possible.  That is why we need a proper in-order LRU list.
> 
> Does it need to be _strictly_ in order, though?  In other words, do you
> truly need a *global*, perfectly in-order LRU?
> 
> You could make per-cpu LRUs, and batch movement on and off the global
> LRU once the local ones get to be a certain size.  Or, you could keep
> them cpu-local *until* the shrinker is called, when the shrinker could
> go drain all the percpu ones.
> 
> Or, you could tag each extent in memory with its last-used time.  You
> write an algorithm to go and walk the tree and attempt to _generally_
> free the oldest objects out of a limited window.

Thanks for your suggestions.  I will try these solutions, and look at
which one is best for us.

Regards,
                                                - Zheng

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-12 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-11 23:22 ext4 extent status tree LRU locking Dave Hansen
2013-06-12  7:17 ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-12 15:09   ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-12 16:03     ` Zheng Liu [this message]
2013-06-12 17:52       ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-12 20:48     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-13 13:27       ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-13 13:35         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-14  3:27           ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-14 14:09 ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-14 14:02   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-14 17:00     ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-14 18:00       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-17 10:10         ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-17 21:12           ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-18  2:25             ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-18  2:51               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-18  3:49                 ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-18  2:47           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-14 15:57   ` Dave Hansen
2013-06-14 17:11     ` Zheng Liu
2013-06-14 16:55       ` Dave Hansen

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