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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Zheng Liu <gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/5] ext4: Shut down block groups when damage is detected
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:02:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130810060212.GA6945@blackbox.djwong.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49txjdbd21.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:28:38AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Zheng Liu <gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > My idea is to let file system can ignore the currurted block.  Namely,
> > when we meet a currupted block, we will track it as bad block in bad
> > block inode and find another block to save data.  This currupted block
> > will never be used.  The first step in my mind is to detect a currpted
> > block and mark it as bad block.  After reading the thread and Darrick's
> > original patch, I think Darrick's patch is a good start.
> 
> I think it's important to call out the exact failure scenario you're
> trying to address.  For hard disks, if you get a read error, it can
> typically be recovered by re-writing the block.  I imagine this is what
> fsck would be doing for metadata repair.  So, I'm not at all sure why
> you'd want to track bad blocks in the file system itself.  Could you
> elaborate, please?

Sorry, was on vacation.

Actually, I had a few different scenarios in mind when I was writing this
patchset.  I've observed that feeding bad block bitmaps to ext4 (misplaced
write, for example) results in it using the garbage bitmap for allocations and
smashing the fs.  Metadata checksumming (and the other sanity checks) at least
help us to detect these situations, but even with that, the allocators will
repeatedly beat on broken block groups.  The repetition causes log spew and in
a few cases the block allocator will go into an infinite loop looking for
space.  This patch set fixes the log spew and the infinite loops.

--D
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeff
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-10  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19 23:55 [PATCH v1 0/5] ext4: Shut down block groups when damage is detected Darrick J. Wong
2013-07-19 23:55 ` [PATCH 1/5] ext4: Error out if verifying the block bitmap fails Darrick J. Wong
2013-08-28 19:36   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-19 23:55 ` [PATCH 2/5] ext4: Fix type declaration of ext4_validate_block_bitmap Darrick J. Wong
2013-07-24  7:12   ` Zheng Liu
2013-07-26 16:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-08-28 20:01       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-19 23:55 ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: Mark block group as corrupt on block bitmap error Darrick J. Wong
2013-07-23  3:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-08-28 22:26     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-19 23:55 ` [PATCH 4/5] ext4: Mark block group as corrupt on inode " Darrick J. Wong
2013-07-24  7:22   ` Zheng Liu
2013-08-28 22:45     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-19 23:56 ` [PATCH 5/5] ext4: Mark group corrupt on group descriptor checksum error Darrick J. Wong
2013-08-28 22:49   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-21 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] ext4: Shut down block groups when damage is detected Zheng Liu
2013-07-29 15:28   ` Jeff Moyer
2013-07-30  0:31     ` Zheng Liu
2013-07-31 18:52       ` Jan Kara
2013-07-31 21:28         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-07-30  1:57     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-08-10  6:02     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]

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