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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Zheng Liu <wenqing.lz@taobao.com>, Tao Ma <tm@tao.ma>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 19/28] mke2fs: add inline_data support in mke2fs
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 22:02:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131204060224.GP9535@birch.djwong.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131204055051.GA25689@gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 01:50:52PM +0800, Zheng Liu wrote:
> [Cc Tao to get some comments]
> 
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:26:08PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 01:21:50PM +0800, Zheng Liu wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 08:08:19PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 11:27:57AM +0800, Zheng Liu wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 02:30:26PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > +		 * notify users that inline data will never be useful.
> > > > > > > +		 */
> > > > > > > +		if ((fs_param.s_feature_incompat &
> > > > > > > +		     EXT4_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_INLINE_DATA) &&
> > > > > > > +		    inode_size == EXT2_GOOD_OLD_INODE_SIZE) {
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Perhaps I'm missing something here, but why is it impossible to use i_blocks
> > > > > > for inline data even if there's no space for EAs?
> > > > > 
> > > > > If I understand correctly, on kernel side, we determine an inode has
> > > > > inline data according to whether we have 'system.data' xattr entry on
> > > > > inode extended attribute space.  If an inode doesn't have enough space
> > > > > to store an entry with 'system.data', we just think this inode doesn't
> > > > > has inline data.  So that is why I add this sanity check.
> > > > 
> > > > Ok.  I was curious.  Small inode => no inline data seems like an unfortunate
> > > > restriction to me, but oh well, it's your feature.  I don't plan to go back to
> > > > 128 byte inodes ever. :)
> > > > 
> > > > Also, we could store four more bytes if we created a new e_name_index value (5?
> > > > 9?) to represent "system.data".  Any thoughts about that?
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I don't get your point.  Do you want to create a new e_name_index?
> > > Any reason lets you want to do this?
> > 
> > Yep, that's exactly what I propose to do, so we can cram four more bytes into
> > the inline data.
> 
> Agree.  I believe it is fine.  But I am wondering if it will break the
> file system that inline data has been enabled.

There's a fair amount of work needed for fs/ext4/inline.c.  My e2fsprogs thing
should handle it fine, though I think the inlinedata_max_size function
somewhere in your patchset might also be broken.

I suspect a lot depends on how widely deployed inlinedata is inside Taobao, or
anyone else who's actually running it right now.

--D
> 
>                                                 - Zheng
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03 12:11 [PATCH v2 00/28] e2fsprogs: inline data refinement patch set Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] libext2fs: support modifying arbitrary extended attributes Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 19:54   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:20     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  3:21       ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04 14:53     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-04 20:30       ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04 22:43         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-12-04 22:55           ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] libext2fs: various tweaks to the xattr editor APIs Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] libext2fs: extend xattr api to query number of attrs Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] libext2fs: fix memory leaks in extended attribute code Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] libext2fs: fix block leak when releasing xattr block Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] libext2fs: remove redundant code Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] libext2fs: free key/value pairs before reading Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] debugfs: dump all extended attributes Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] libext2fs: handle inline data in dir iterator function Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 22:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  4:57     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  5:10       ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  5:26         ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  6:07           ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  6:21             ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  7:33               ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] libext2fs: handle inline_data in block " Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] debugfs: make stat command support inline data Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] debugfs: make expand " Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 21:19   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:42     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] debugfs: make mkdir " Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] debugfs: make lsdel " Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] debugfs: handle inline_data feature in bmap command Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  3:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:46     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] debugfs: handle inline data feature in punch command Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] libext2fs: handle inline data in read/write function Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  3:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:47     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] libext2fs: add inline_data feature into EXT2_LIB_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_SUPP Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] mke2fs: add inline_data support in mke2fs Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 22:30   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:27     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  4:08       ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  5:21         ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  5:26           ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  5:50             ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  6:02               ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2013-12-04  6:18                 ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] tune2fs: add inline_data feature in tune2fs Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 22:29   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:55     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-04  4:03       ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  5:27         ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] e2fsck: add problem descriptions and check inline data feature Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] e2fsck: check inline_data in pass1 Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] e2fsck: check inline_data in pass2 Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] e2fsck: check inline_data in pass3 Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] tests: change result in f_bad_disconnected_inode Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] mke2fs: enable inline_data feature on ext4dev filesystem Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] libext2fs: export inode cahce creation function Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 22:22   ` Darrick J. Wong
2013-12-04  3:56     ` Zheng Liu
2013-12-03 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] libext2fs: add a unit test for inline data Zheng Liu

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