From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas.nussbaum@loria.fr>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Emmanuel Jeanvoine"
<emmanuel.jeanvoine@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] fs: only call sync_filesystem() when remounting read-only
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:16:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140313011629.GA2796@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140313003635.GA4263@dastard>
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:36:35AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Folks on linux-fsdevel, any objections if I carry this patch in the
> > ext4 tree? I don't think it should cause problems for other file
> > systems, since any file system that tries to rely on the implied
> > syncfs() is going to be subject to races, but it might make such a
> > race condition bug much more visible...
>
> IMO, I think that you should be looking to fix ext4 syncfs issues,
> not changing the VFS behaviour that might cause subtle and unnoticed
> problems for other filesystems. We should not be moving data
> inegrity operations without first auditing of all the filesystem
> remount operations for issues.
The issue is that it's forcing a CACHE FLUSH if we don't need to force
a journal commit, since it's possible that data writes could have been
sent to the disk without modifying fs metadata that would require a
commit. So arguably what we're doing with ext4 is _correct_, where as
with ext3 we would simply not calling blkdev_issue_barrier() in that
situation.
The issue is that if userspace executes a no-op remount, there
shouldn't be a reason to call sync_filesystem() at all. But I'm also
not so sure that I should be that solicitous of a workload where
someone is calling thousands and thousands of no-op remounts.....
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-13 1:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-05 14:13 Extremely slow remounts with concurrent I/O Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-06 13:56 ` [PATCH, RFC] jbd2: don't write non-commit blocks synchronously Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-06 17:28 ` Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-06 18:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-06 18:45 ` Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-06 18:37 ` Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-08 16:08 ` [PATCH, RFC] fs: only call sync_filesystem() when remounting read-only Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-10 11:45 ` Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-10 14:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-10 12:15 ` Lucas Nussbaum
2014-03-13 0:36 ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-13 1:16 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2014-03-13 3:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-13 6:04 ` Dave Chinner
2014-03-13 12:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-13 7:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-03-13 14:20 ` [PATCH] fs: push sync_filesystem() down to the file system's remount_fs() Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <1394720456-16629-1-git-send-email-tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 16:23 ` Jan Kara
2014-03-13 16:28 ` Steven Whitehouse
2014-03-13 23:15 ` [Cluster-devel] " Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20140313231506.GB16785-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-14 12:13 ` Jan Kara
2014-03-14 0:33 ` Steve French
2014-03-14 1:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-03-13 7:19 ` Extremely slow remounts with concurrent I/O Dave Chinner
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