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From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Gioh Kim <gioh.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	jack@suse.cz, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
	minchan@kernel.org, gunho.lee@lge.com
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 0/3] new APIs to allocate buffer-cache with user specific flag
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:10:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140915011018.GA2676@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140905141416.GA1510@thunk.org>

On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 10:14:16AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:32:48PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> > I also test another approach, such as allocate freepage in CMA
> > reserved region as late as possible, which is also similar to your
> > suggestion and this doesn't works well. When reclaim is started,
> > too many pages reclaim at once, because lru list has successive pages
> > in CMA region and these doesn't help kswapd's reclaim. kswapd stop
> > reclaiming when freepage count is recovered. But, CMA pages isn't
> > counted for freepage for kswapd because they can't be usable for
> > unmovable, reclaimable allocation. So kswap reclaim too many pages
> > at once unnecessarilly.
> 
> Have you considered putting the pages in a CMA region in a separate
> zone?  After all, that's what we originally did with brain-damaged
> hardware that could only DMA into the low 16M of memory.  We just
> reserved a separate zone for that?  That way, we could do
> zone-directed reclaim and free pages in that zone, if that was what
> was actually needed.

Sorry for long delay. It was long holidays.

No, I haven't consider it. It sounds good idea to place the pages in a
CMA region into a separate zone. Perhaps we can remove one of
migratetype, MIGRATE_CMA, with this way and it would be a good long-term
architecture for CMA.

I don't know exact history and reason why CMA is implemented in current
form. Ccing some experts in this area.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-15  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1409815781-28011-1-git-send-email-gioh.kim@lge.com>
2014-09-04 22:16 ` [PATCHv4 0/3] new APIs to allocate buffer-cache with user specific flag Andrew Morton
2014-09-05  0:37   ` Gioh Kim
2014-09-05  1:14     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-05  1:48       ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-09-05  3:17         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-05  7:32           ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-09-05 14:14             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-15  1:10               ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2014-09-15  6:37                 ` Minchan Kim
     [not found] ` <1409815781-28011-2-git-send-email-gioh.kim@lge.com>
2014-09-05  2:37   ` [PATCHv4 1/3] fs.c: support buffer cache allocations with gfp modifiers Theodore Ts'o
     [not found] ` <1409815781-28011-3-git-send-email-gioh.kim@lge.com>
2014-09-05  2:37   ` [PATCHv4 2/3] ext4: use non-movable memory for the ext4 superblock Theodore Ts'o
     [not found] ` <1409815781-28011-4-git-send-email-gioh.kim@lge.com>
2014-09-05  2:37   ` [PATCHv4 3/3] jbd/jbd2: use non-movable memory for the jbd superblock Theodore Ts'o

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