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From: linux@horizon.com
To: linux@horizon.com, tytso@mit.edu
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mke2fs -E hash_alg=siphash: any interest?
Date: 21 Sep 2014 17:04:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140921210416.27127.qmail@ns.horizon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140921175515.GA30646@thunk.org>

> I'm certainly not against adding a new hash function.  The reality is
> that it would be quite a while before we could turn it on by default,
> because of the backwards compatibility concerns.

Well, yes, obviously!  My itch is just that I want to use it myself;
I prefer it for security and cleanliness reasons.  The benchmarks are
mostly to prove that it isn't slower.

> The question I would ask is whether we can show an anctual performance
> improvement with the hash being used in situ.

I quite agree, but I'll have to have a working patch before such
a test can be made.

One things I'm coming across immediately that I have to ask for
design guidance on is the hash algorithm number assignment:

- Should I leave room for more hashes with a signed/unsigned distinction,
  or should I assume that's a historical kludge that won't be perpetuated?
  SipHash is defined on a byte string, so there isn't really a signed
  version.
- Should I use a new EXT2_HASH_SIPHASH_62 = 6, or should I
  renumber the (internal-only) EXT2_HASH_*_UNSIGNED values and use
  EXT2_HASH_SIPHASH_4_2 = 4?

None of this is truly final, but it would make my life easier if I
didn't have to change it on my test filesystems too often.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-21 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-21  9:53 [RFC] mke2fs -E hash_alg=siphash: any interest? George Spelvin
2014-09-21 17:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-21 21:04   ` linux [this message]
2014-09-21 22:08     ` TR Reardon
2014-09-22  2:31       ` George Spelvin
2014-09-22 17:09         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-22 23:14           ` George Spelvin
2014-09-22  1:17     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-23 22:25   ` Andreas Dilger
2014-09-23 23:00     ` George Spelvin
2014-09-23 23:22       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-09-24  0:37         ` George Spelvin

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