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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:19:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141125171927.GC3228@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141125043335.GF31339@thunk.org>

On Mon 24-11-14 23:33:35, Ted Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:52:39PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Eviction is too late for this. I'm pretty sure that it won't get
> > this far as iput_final() should catch the I_DIRTY_TIME in the !drop
> > case via write_inode_now().
> 
> Actually, the tracepoint for fs_lazytime_evict() does get triggered
> from time to time; but only when the inode is evicted due to memory
> pressure, i.e., via the evict_inodes() path.
> 
> I thought about possibly doing this in iput_final(), but that would
> mean that whenever we closed the last fd on the file, we would push
> the inode out to disk.  For files that we are writing, that's not so
> bad; but if we enable strictatime with lazytime, then we would be
> updating the atime for inodes that had been only been read on every
> close --- which in the case of say, all of the files in the kernel
> tree, would be a little unfortunate.
  Actually, I'd also prefer to do the writing from iput_final(). My main
reason is that shrinker starts behaving very differently when you put
inodes with I_DIRTY_TIME to the LRU. See inode_lru_isolate() and in
particular:
        /*
         * Referenced or dirty inodes are still in use. Give them another
         * pass
         * through the LRU as we canot reclaim them now.
         */
        if (atomic_read(&inode->i_count) ||
            (inode->i_state & ~I_REFERENCED)) {
                list_del_init(&inode->i_lru);
                spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
                this_cpu_dec(nr_unused);
                return LRU_REMOVED;
        }

Regarding your concern that we'd write the inode when file is closed -
that's not true. We'll write the inode only after corresponding dentry is
evicted and thus drops inode reference. That doesn't seem too bad to me.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-21 19:59 [PATCH 0/4] add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-21 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: split update_time() into update_time() and write_time() Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-21 20:08   ` Chris Mason
2014-11-21 21:42     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-24 16:38       ` David Sterba
2014-11-24 17:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-24 18:09           ` David Sterba
2014-11-24 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-24 15:56     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-24 17:34     ` David Sterba
2014-11-25 15:51       ` David Sterba
2014-11-25 17:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-21 19:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] vfs: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-25  1:52   ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-25  4:33     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-25 15:32       ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-25 17:19       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-11-25 17:57         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-25 20:18           ` Jan Kara
2014-11-25 17:30       ` Jan Kara
2014-11-25 19:26         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26  0:24       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-21 19:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] vfs: don't let the dirty time inodes get more than a day stale Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-21 20:19   ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-21 21:36     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-21 23:09       ` Andreas Dilger
2014-11-25  1:53   ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-25  4:45     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-25 23:48       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-26 10:20         ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-26 22:39           ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-25 17:31   ` Jan Kara
2014-11-21 19:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] ext4: add support for a lazytime mount option Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-25 17:34   ` Jan Kara

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