From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Issue in ext4 rename
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:06:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150403150600.GC9988@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <551E6405.8050600@huawei.com>
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 05:57:25PM +0800, Joseph Qi wrote:
> Hi Ted,
> Thanks very much for your quick and detailed reply.
> Yes, currently it will behave as RO, or PANIC or CONT based on the
> mounted options.
> You suggested a way to make sure the allocation cannot fail.
> I am wondering if we can omit this handle when commit, for example,
> introducing a way that invalids the handle in jbd2.
Not really, because we've already started modifying data structures at
this point; hence my comment that in order to do this we would have to
implement a fairly heavyweight transaction rollback scheme. For
eample, we could make every single ext4_journal_get_write_access()
allocate a 4k page to store a copy of the 4k buffer we were about to
modify, so in case some other ext4_journal_get_write_access() failed,
we could roll back the handle. But that inceases the amount of memory
required for each transaction by an order of magnitude --- and worse,
what if some other handle needs to modify the same block? We couldn't
let that handle proceed until the first handle was stopped.
So we would trash performance *and* use more memory, making memory
allocation and memory pressures worse. In other words, the cure is
worse than the disease; much worse.
Best regards,
- Ted
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-03 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-02 10:49 Issue in ext4 rename Joseph Qi
2015-04-02 14:02 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-04-03 9:57 ` Joseph Qi
2015-04-03 15:06 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
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