From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: Return the length of a hole from get_block
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:48:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150714134851.GK13681@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150714090246.GA24369@quack.suse.cz>
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:02:46AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-07-15 11:26:15, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 05:16:10PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Fri 03-07-15 11:15:11, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
> > > >
> > > > Currently, if ext4's get_block encounters a hole, it does not modify the
> > > > buffer_head. That's fine for many callers, but for DAX, it's useful to
> > > > know how large the hole is. XFS already returns the length of the hole,
> > > > so this improvement should not confuse any callers.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
> > >
> > > So I'm somewhat wondering: What is the reason of BH_Uptodate flag being
> > > set? I can see the XFS sets it in some cases as well but the use of the
> > > flag isn't really clear to me...
> >
> > No clue. I'm just following the documentation in buffer.c:
> >
> > * NOTE! All mapped/uptodate combinations are valid:
> > *
> > * Mapped Uptodate Meaning
> > *
> > * No No "unknown" - must do get_block()
> > * No Yes "hole" - zero-filled
> > * Yes No "allocated" - allocated on disk, not read in
> > * Yes Yes "valid" - allocated and up-to-date in memory.
>
> OK, but that speaks about buffer head attached to a page. get_block()
> callback gets a temporary bh (at least in some cases) only so that it can
> communicate result of block mapping. And BH_Uptodate should be set only if
> data in the buffer is properly filled (which cannot be the case for
> temporary bh which doesn't have *any* data) and it simply isn't the case
> even for bh attached to a page because ext4 get_block() functions don't
> touch bh->b_data at all. So I just wouldn't set BH_Uptodate in get_block()
> at all..
OK, but how should DAX then distinguish between an old-style filesystem
(like current ext4) which reports "unknown" and leaves b_size untouched
when it encounters a hole, versus a new-style filesystem (XFS, ext4 with
this patch) which wants to report the size of a hole in b_size? The use
of Uptodate currently distinguishes the two cases.
Plus, why would you want bh's to be treated differently, depending on
whether they're stack-based or attached to a page? That seems even more
confusing than bh's already are.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-14 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-03 15:15 [PATCH] ext4: Return the length of a hole from get_block Matthew Wilcox
2015-07-13 15:16 ` Jan Kara
2015-07-13 15:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-07-14 9:02 ` Jan Kara
2015-07-14 13:48 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2015-07-14 22:24 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-15 9:59 ` Jan Kara
2015-07-16 1:46 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-16 7:08 ` Jan Kara
2015-07-17 22:11 ` Dave Chinner
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