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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] 998ef75ddb and aio-dio-invalidate-failure w/ data=journal
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:27:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151006092757.GA27419@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxjcXJ9iaRJpCwsOchbJ5p2ch0zXs5=ywMMOuFUAair1A@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but note that those interfaces are x86 only at the moment, so they'd have 
> > to be factored out and generalized before we can use it in generic code.
> 
> ARM64 these days (as a part of ARM8.1) has "Privileged Access Never", which is 
> their name for SMAP. They do it somewhat similarly with an instruction to 
> clear/set the PAN bit in the pstate register.
> 
> So we really should strive to make this support generic, because by now it's not 
> x86-specific, and x86 and ARM64 together aren't exactly some odd special case..

Absolutely.

> I do in fact wonder if we should aim (eventually) for the rule that the "__" 
> versions of the user access functions should not do the SMAP/PAN thing, since 
> they have to be explicitly checked for pointer being valid anyway. And just make 
> the rule be that since you have to check for the pointer being valid, you might 
> as well also have to do the SMAP/PAN thing too.
> 
> We really should try get rid of _all_ uses of the "__" versions unless they are 
> very locally and obviously checked with access_ok(). We've had way too many 
> cases where people thought they were clever, and weren't really.

That's a good idea.

The logistics worries me a bit: it looks like a major undertaking, considering the 
widespread use of these APIs in 1400+ call sites:

  triton:~/tip> git grep -E '__get_user|__put_user' | grep -vE '\.h:|arch/' | wc -l
  1086
  triton:~/tip> git grep -E '__get_user|__put_user' arch/x86/ arch/arm64/ | wc -l
  354

... affecting 93 files:

  triton:~/tip> git grep -lE '__get_user|__put_user' | grep -vE '\.h:|arch/' | wc -l
  70
  triton:~/tip> git grep -lE '__get_user|__put_user' arch/x86/ arch/arm64/ | wc -l
  23

(Assuming my grep-fu is strong enough.)

Which is probably more than a hundred commits until we get rid of all 
double-underscore uses?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-06  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-05 15:22 [REGRESSION] 998ef75ddb and aio-dio-invalidate-failure w/ data=journal Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-05 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-05 16:23   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-05 20:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-05 20:48       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-05 21:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-05 21:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-05 23:33             ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-06  9:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-05 20:49       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-10-06  7:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06  9:10           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-06  9:27             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-10-06 13:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-06 13:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-05 16:03 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-05 18:04 ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07  3:34   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-07  7:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-07 15:43       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-09  4:01         ` [PATCH] ext4: use private version of page_zero_new_buffers() for data=journal mode Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-13  6:06           ` Leonid V. Fedorenchik
2015-10-15 11:17           ` Jan Kara
2025-01-26 17:01           ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-26 18:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-01-26 19:49               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-26 22:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-01-26 22:45                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-01-27 20:52                     ` Dave Hansen
2025-01-27 21:46                       ` Dave Chinner

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