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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@google.com>,
	adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: Return EIO on read error in ext4_find_entry
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:58:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170627215804.GD5250@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170623122603.jmvyw4oqkojcapv3@thunk.org>

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Hi!

> > >> Previously, a read error would be ignored and we would eventually return
> > >> NULL from ext4_find_entry, which signals "no such file or directory". We
> > >> should be returning EIO.
> > >> 
> > >> Signed-off-by: Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@google.com>
> > > 
> > > Thanks, applied.
> > 
> > I don't necessarily agree that this is an improvement. 
> > 
> > If the requested entry is not in the bad block, this will return an
> > error even if the file name could be found in another block. It
> > would be better to save the error until the end and only return -EIO
> > if the entry cannot be found.
> 
> The problem is that if we continue, successive reads may all take
> seconds or minutes to fail, thus tieing up the process for a long
> time.  If this process happens to be, say, the node's Kubernetes
> management server it can take down the entire node (since if there
...
> By returning EIO right away, we can "fast fail".

Well, OTOH if I have a bad flash, and get EIO trying to read
~/my-disertation-thesis.tex because ~/.emacs could not be read... I'll be
quite unhappy.

Yes, fast fail is nice when you have redundant machines, but can be a
problem otherwise.
									Pavel
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-27 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 23:23 [PATCH] ext4: Return EIO on read error in ext4_find_entry Khazhismel Kumykov
2017-06-23  4:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-23  6:33   ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-23 12:26     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-23 21:36       ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-23 22:33         ` Khazhismel Kumykov
2017-06-23 23:26           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-23 23:34             ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-24  0:24               ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-06-26 19:22                 ` Tahsin Erdogan
2017-06-26 20:45                   ` Andreas Dilger
2017-06-27 21:58       ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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