From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3CBC31E45 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAE521537 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730002AbfFMVMC (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:12:02 -0400 Received: from mga02.intel.com ([134.134.136.20]:28008 "EHLO mga02.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725747AbfFMVMB (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:12:01 -0400 X-Amp-Result: UNSCANNABLE X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from orsmga006.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.51]) by orsmga101.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 13 Jun 2019 14:12:01 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 Received: from iweiny-desk2.sc.intel.com ([10.3.52.157]) by orsmga006.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2019 14:12:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 14:13:21 -0700 From: Ira Weiny To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Dave Chinner , Jan Kara , Dan Williams , Theodore Ts'o , Jeff Layton , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , John Hubbard , =?iso-8859-1?B?Suly9G1l?= Glisse , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Jason Gunthorpe , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/10] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal Message-ID: <20190613211321.GC32404@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> References: <20190606014544.8339-1-ira.weiny@intel.com> <20190606104203.GF7433@quack2.suse.cz> <20190606220329.GA11698@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> <20190607110426.GB12765@quack2.suse.cz> <20190607182534.GC14559@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> <20190608001036.GF14308@dread.disaster.area> <20190612123751.GD32656@bombadil.infradead.org> <20190613002555.GH14363@dread.disaster.area> <20190613152755.GI32656@bombadil.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190613152755.GI32656@bombadil.infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 08:27:55AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:25:55AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > > e.g. Process A has an exclusive layout lease on file F. It does an > > IO to file F. The filesystem IO path checks that Process A owns the > > lease on the file and so skips straight through layout breaking > > because it owns the lease and is allowed to modify the layout. It > > then takes the inode metadata locks to allocate new space and write > > new data. > > > > Process B now tries to write to file F. The FS checks whether > > Process B owns a layout lease on file F. It doesn't, so then it > > tries to break the layout lease so the IO can proceed. The layout > > breaking code sees that process A has an exclusive layout lease > > granted, and so returns -ETXTBSY to process B - it is not allowed to > > break the lease and so the IO fails with -ETXTBSY. > > This description doesn't match the behaviour that RDMA wants either. > Even if Process A has a lease on the file, an IO from Process A which > results in blocks being freed from the file is going to result in the > RDMA device being able to write to blocks which are now freed (and > potentially reallocated to another file). I don't understand why this would not work for RDMA? As long as the layout does not change the page pins can remain in place. Ira