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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Suraj Jitindar Singh <surajjs@amazon.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] ext4: fix potential race between online resizing and write operations
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 19:54:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200225185400.GA27919@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200225020705.GA253171@google.com>

> > > > I was thinking a 2 fold approach (just thinking out loud..):
> > > > 
> > > > If kfree_call_rcu() is called in atomic context or in any rcu reader, then
> > > > use GFP_ATOMIC to grow an rcu_head wrapper on the atomic memory pool and
> > > > queue that.
> > > > 
> > I am not sure if that is acceptable, i mean what to do when GFP_ATOMIC
> > gets failed in atomic context? Or we can just consider it as out of
> > memory and another variant is to say that headless object can be called
> > from preemptible context only.
> 
> Yes that makes sense, and we can always put disclaimer in the API's comments
> saying if this object is expected to be freed a lot, then don't use the
> headless-API to be extra safe.
> 
Agree.

> BTW, GFP_ATOMIC the documentation says if GFP_ATOMIC reserves are depleted,
> the kernel can even panic some times, so if GFP_ATOMIC allocation fails, then
> there seems to be bigger problems in the system any way. I would say let us
> write a patch to allocate there and see what the -mm guys think.
> 
OK. It might be that they can offer something if they do not like our
approach. I will try to compose something and send the patch to see.
The tree.c implementation is almost done, whereas tiny one is on hold.

I think we should support batching as well as bulk interface there.
Another way is to workaround head-less object, just to attach the head
dynamically using kmalloc() and then call_rcu() but then it will not be
a fair headless support :)

What is your view?

> > > > Otherwise, grow an rcu_head on the stack of kfree_call_rcu() and call
> > > > synchronize_rcu() inline with it.
> > > > 
> > > >
> > What do you mean here, Joel? "grow an rcu_head on the stack"?
> 
> By "grow on the stack", use the compiler-allocated rcu_head on the
> kfree_rcu() caller's stack.
> 
> I meant here to say, if we are not in atomic context, then we use regular
> GFP_KERNEL allocation, and if that fails, then we just use the stack's
> rcu_head and call synchronize_rcu() or even synchronize_rcu_expedited since
> the allocation failure would mean the need for RCU to free some memory is
> probably great.
> 
Ah, i got it. I thought you meant something like recursion and then
unwinding the stack back somehow :)

> > > > Use preemptible() andr task_struct's rcu_read_lock_nesting to differentiate
> > > > between the 2 cases.
> > > > 
> > If the current context is preemptable then we can inline synchronize_rcu()
> > together with freeing to handle such corner case, i mean when we are run
> > out of memory.
> 
> Ah yes, exactly what I mean.
> 
OK.

> > As for "task_struct's rcu_read_lock_nesting". Will it be enough just
> > have a look at preempt_count of current process? If we have for example
> > nested rcu_read_locks:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > rcu_read_lock()
> >     rcu_read_lock()
> >         rcu_read_lock()
> > <snip>
> > 
> > the counter would be 3.
> 
> No, because preempt_count is not incremented during rcu_read_lock(). RCU
> reader sections can be preempted, they just cannot goto sleep in a reader
> section (unless the kernel is RT).
> 
So in CONFIG_PREEMPT kernel we can identify if we are in atomic or not by
using rcu_preempt_depth() and in_atomic(). When it comes to !CONFIG_PREEMPT
then we skip it and consider as atomic. Something like:

<snip>
static bool is_current_in_atomic()
{
#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU
    if (!rcu_preempt_depth() && !in_atomic())
        return false;
#endif

    return true;
}
<snip>

Thanks!

--
Vlad Rezki

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-25 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-15 23:38 [PATCH RFC] ext4: fix potential race between online resizing and write operations Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-16 12:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-16 20:32   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-17 16:08   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-17 19:33     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-18 17:08       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-20  4:52         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-21  0:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-21 13:14             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-21 20:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-22 22:24                 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-23  1:10                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-24 17:40                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-25  2:07                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-25  3:55                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-25 14:17                           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-25 16:38                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-25 17:00                               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-25 18:54                         ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2020-02-25 22:47                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-26 13:04                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-26 15:06                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-26 15:53                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-27 14:08                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-01 11:13                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-27 13:37                           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-01 11:08                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-03-01 12:07                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-25  2:11                     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-21 12:06         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-21 13:28           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-21 19:21             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-21 19:25               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-22 22:12               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-24 17:02                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-02-24 23:14                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-25  1:48                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-19  3:09 ` Jitindar SIngh, Suraj
2020-02-20  4:34   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o

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