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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"Luís Henriques" <lhenriques@suse.de>,
	"Andreas Dilger" <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jeroen van Wolffelaar" <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ext4: set csum seed in tmp inode while migrating to extents
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:40:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211228224017.GA2242@duo.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211217093534.2ug6e5cm37md2c3u@work>

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Hi!

> > So the question is, is it worth it to continue supporting the migrate
> > feature, or should we just delete all of the migration code, and risk
> > users complaining that we've broken their use case?  The chances of
> > that happening is admittedly low, and Linus's rule that "it's only
> > breaking userspace if a user complains" means we might very well get
> > away with it.  :-)
> 
> That's a very good summary Ted, thanks.
> 
> Our rationale behind not supporting the migration was always the fact
> that we felt that backup was absolutely necessary before operation like
> this. When you already have up-to-date backup available you might as
> well create a fresh ext4 file system with all the advantages it brings
> and recover data from said backup. I think this is still a very
> reasonable approach.

Umm. Not really?

First... full backup/restore will take a _long_ time.

Second... if you do online migration, you have filesystem you are
quite unlikely to corrupt, and backup you are unlikely to use. If you
do backup/restore, you have to be _way_ more careful that backup media
is reliable etc.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-28 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 17:50 [PATCH v2] ext4: set csum seed in tmp inode while migrating to extents Luís Henriques
2021-12-15  0:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-12-15 10:46   ` Luís Henriques
2021-12-15 11:28   ` Jan Kara
2021-12-15 14:12     ` Lukas Czerner
2021-12-15 15:37       ` Luís Henriques
2021-12-16 11:23       ` Luís Henriques
2021-12-16 18:32       ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-12-17  9:35         ` Lukas Czerner
2021-12-28 22:40           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2021-12-30  6:56             ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-12-17 15:09         ` Jeroen van Wolffelaar
2022-01-06  4:41 ` Theodore Ts'o

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