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From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Artem Blagodarenko <artem.blagodarenko@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Data in direntry (dirdata) feature
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:47:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260419004716.GB58909@macsyma-wired.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+rD4x8uk7h7dv_Mg1tMXXiVZZD1YAj5WAw+6GNuMKQAAMueuQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 18, 2026 at 11:24:32PM +0100, Artem Blagodarenko wrote:
> There is now a way to set dirdata. Following the decisions from [1]
> the patches provided change how the encryption + casefold
> hash is stored. If the dirdata feature is enabled,
> the hash is stored as dirdata. Therefore, to test dirdata, it is
> sufficient to test the combination of encryption + casefold + dirdata.

I'm not seeing that in the patches that was sent out to the list last
week.  Where is that?

I traced all of the places where ext4_insert_dentry_data() and
ext4_dirdata_set() and I don't see *anything* where dirdata was
stored, including the fscrypt + casefold hash.   What am I missing?

It *really* would be a good idea if the e2fsprogs patches included a
way to list and set the dirdata using debugfs.  That way we could
easily verify that dirdata field was getting set when you expected it
to be.

> ext4/064: encryption + casefold (WITHOUT dirdata)
> 
> This test verifies that files created in directories with both
> encryption and case-insensitive (casefold) attributes work correctly.

Yes, but that doesn't actually verify that the dirdata field was set
when you expected it to be.  Just that it works correctly....

> LUFID is an optimization that allows Lustre to store file identifiers
> efficiently directly in directory entries, avoiding additional I/O
> operations to look them up separately.

Oh, I see.  So this is for readdir(), right?

> I am open to adding mechanisms to access LUFID outside the Lustre
> filesystem. However, since: 1) dirdata is tested using the encryption +
> casefold features, and LUFID is primarily useful within the Lustre filesystem
> and is already tested there, I would prefer to rely on testing LUFID
> within Lustre FS.

Well, the one advantage of having a way to set and get LUFID would be
if you ever wanted to ressurrect the userspace Lustre server[1].  :-)

[1]  https://wiki.lustre.org/images/5/56/LUG08-Lustre-uOSS.pdf

And I *do* think it would be useful to have a way to set and get the
LUFID using debugfs.

Cheers,

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-19  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-17 21:37 [PATCH 0/3] Data in direntry (dirdata) feature Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-17 21:37 ` [PATCH 1/3] ext4: make dirdata work with metadata_csum Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-17 21:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] ext4: add dirdata support structures and helpers Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-17 21:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] ext4: dirdata feature Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-18  6:47 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Data in direntry (dirdata) feature syzbot ci
2026-04-18 21:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Theodore Tso
2026-04-18 22:24   ` Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-19  0:47     ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2026-04-19 19:37       ` Artem Blagodarenko
2026-04-19 21:57         ` Theodore Tso

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