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From: Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, tytso@mit.edu,
	djwong@kernel.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
	chengzhihao1@huawei.com, yukuai3@huawei.com,
	yangerkun@huawei.com, Sai Chaitanya Mitta <mittachaitu@gmail.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] fs: introduce FALLOC_FL_FORCE_ZERO to fallocate
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:38:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e443003-ff12-45c8-b41b-65a0af43de61@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z3u-OCX86j-q7JXo@infradead.org>

On 2025/1/6 19:27, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> There's a feature request for something similar on the xfs list, so
> I guess people are asking for it.
> 
> That being said this really should not be a modifier but a separate
> operation, as the logic is very different from FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE,
> similar to how plain prealloc, hole punch and zero range are different
> operations despite all of them resulting in reads of zeroes from the
> range.

OK, it seems reasonable to me, and adding a new operation would be
better. There is actually no need to mix it with the current
FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE.

> 
> That will also make it more clear that for files or file systems that
> require out place writes this operation should fail instead of doing
> pointless multiple writes.
> 
> Also please write a man page update clearly specifying the semantics,
> especially if this should work or not if there is no write zeroes
> offload in the hardware, or if that offload actually writes physical
> zeroes to the media or not.
> 

Sure. thanks for your advice.

Thanks,
Yi.

> Btw, someone really should clean up the ext4 fallocate code to use
> helper adnd do the
> 
> 	switch (mode & FALLOC_FL_MODE_MASK) {
> 	}
> 
> and then use helpers for each mode whih will make these things a lot
> more obvious.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-07 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28  1:45 [RFC PATCH 0/2] fallocate: introduce FALLOC_FL_FORCE_ZERO flag Zhang Yi
2024-12-28  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] fs: introduce FALLOC_FL_FORCE_ZERO to fallocate Zhang Yi
2025-01-06 11:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 16:17     ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-06 16:27       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-06 17:31         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-06 18:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-07 14:05           ` Zhang Yi
2025-01-07 16:42             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-08  1:20               ` Zhang Yi
2025-01-07 11:22       ` Zhang Yi
2025-01-07 12:38     ` Zhang Yi [this message]
2024-12-28  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ext4: add FALLOC_FL_FORCE_ZERO support Zhang Yi

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