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From: Rupesh Thakare <rupesh@clusterfs.com>
To: "Wolber, Richard C" <richard.c.wolber@boeing.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	Nikolai Joukov <kolya@cs.sunysb.edu>,
	Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>,
	Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Shred mount option for ext4?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:22:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <456188DC.5030107@clusterfs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8C7C41A176AC0B468BEFB2EFD9BDAB9902426639@XCH-NW-5V2.nw.nos.boeing.com>

Wolber, Richard C wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:17 AM Andreas Dilger Wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone discuss doing this with crypto instead of actually 
>> overwriting the whole file?  It would be pretty easy to store 
>> a per-file crypto key in each inode as an EA, then to 
>> "delete" the file all that would be needed would be to erase 
>> the key in a secure matter (which is a great deal easier 
>> because inodes don't move around on disk).
>>     
>
> If it's cheap to delete the keys, it's also cheap to harvest 
> the keys. A per file crypto-key lowers the barrier to entry.
>   
That's true. But can't we combine the advantages of single-secure-key 
and per-file krypto key ?
Can't we have a half single-secure-key combined with half 
per-file-krypto ? Key management overhead is not
worse than that for single-secure-key. This gives offers same security 
with ease for shredding.

Cheers,
Rupesh
> This is Schneier 101.
>
>
> ..Chuck..
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-20 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-31 20:14 Shred mount option for ext4? Nikolai Joukov
2006-11-01 16:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2006-11-01 16:38   ` Ric Wheeler
2006-11-01 16:52     ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-11-01 17:20       ` Erez Zadok
2006-11-01 16:57   ` Wolber, Richard C
2006-11-20 10:52     ` Rupesh Thakare [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-31 10:36 Samuel Tardieu
2006-10-31 12:32 ` Erik Mouw
2006-10-31 13:02   ` Samuel Tardieu

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