From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com, rjw@sisk.pl,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, clameter@sgi.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pageexec@freemail.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:49:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48151F15.7050606@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4812D09D.6010901@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> * Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, that should work. It's still ugly, and I have to say I find the
>>>> complexity rather distasteful. I am willing to be convinced it's worth it,
>>>> but I would really like to see hard numbers.
>>>>
>>> I really cannot imagine that this kind of pain is *ever* worth it.
>>>
>>> Please give an example of something so important that we'd want to do
>>> complex code rewriting on the fly. What _is_ the point of imv_cond()?
>>>
>>> Linus
>>>
>> The point is to provide a way to dynamically enable code at runtime
>> without noticeable performance impact on the system. It's principally
>> useful to control the markers in the kernel, which can be placed in very
>> frequently executed code paths. The original markers add a memory read,
>> test and conditional branch at each marker site. By using the immediate
>> values patchset, it goes down to a load immediate value, test and branch.
>>
>> However, Ingo was still unhappy with the conditional branch, so I cooked
>> this jump patching optimization on top of the immediate values.
>
> I think all this demonstrates that the conditional branch is a bearable
> cost compared to the alternative. A conditional branch which almost
> always branches the same way is very predictable, and really shouldn't
> cost very much.
I agree with you.
When I measured the performance of a tracer (LKST) which used conditional
branches, the overhead of the conditional branch itself was very small
(less than 1%).
Moreover, some benchmarks showed the performance of the patched kernel
became ~1% faster than before :-) (I guessed that came from changing of
memory access pattern and timing.)
I think, if someone is considering about the actual performance impacts,
we'd better discuss the effects of the individual trace points, based
on the actual results of some benchmarks.
Thus, we can improve it step by step.
Thank you,
--
Masami Hiramatsu
Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc.
Software Solutions Division
e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com
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2008-04-20 19:04 ` 2.6.25-git2: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffffffffffff Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-20 19:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-20 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 1:18 ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-21 2:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 4:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 5:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 13:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 16:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-21 15:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 17:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-22 1:03 ` Herbert Xu
2008-04-22 13:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 16:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-21 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 17:06 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 17:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-21 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 18:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-21 19:38 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 20:39 ` David Miller
2008-04-21 21:18 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 21:58 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 22:26 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 22:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 23:02 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-21 23:11 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-21 23:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-22 0:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-22 1:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 1:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-22 9:49 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-22 9:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 18:35 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-22 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23 8:50 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-23 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23 16:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-23 17:28 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-23 17:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-23 18:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-23 19:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-23 19:19 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-23 19:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-23 20:27 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-24 22:26 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-24 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 0:57 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-24 23:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 7:36 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 14:09 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-25 15:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-25 17:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 9:13 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 12:15 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-25 12:27 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-04-25 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 15:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 19:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-26 9:59 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-26 11:16 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-26 11:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-28 20:24 ` VIRTUAL_BUG_ON() Christoph Lameter
2008-05-01 19:22 ` [RFC 1/1] mm: add virt to phys debug Jiri Slaby
2008-05-01 20:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-06 21:54 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-05-07 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-13 14:38 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 1/1] x86: fix text_poke Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 15:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 15:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 16:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 16:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 18:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-05 2:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-25 16:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 16:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 17:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 18:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 18:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 20:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 20:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 20:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 21:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 21:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 22:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 22:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 22:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-28 20:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-28 20:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-28 21:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-28 22:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 20:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-28 21:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-04 15:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-05-04 16:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 23:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 23:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-25 23:34 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-04-26 6:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-26 11:56 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-04-26 23:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-27 1:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-04-26 2:12 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-06-05 17:44 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-26 6:50 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-28 0:49 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2008-04-25 21:02 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 21:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 16:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 16:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 17:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 17:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 17:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 18:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:56 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 15:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 15:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-25 18:53 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-25 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 15:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 15:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-25 16:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-25 15:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 20:18 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 15:23 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 1:35 ` 2.6.25-git2: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffffffffffff David Miller
2008-04-25 1:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-25 1:57 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 7:41 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 7:45 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 8:02 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 10:53 ` Craig Schlenter
2008-04-25 7:42 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 7:49 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 7:56 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 7:58 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 8:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-04-25 15:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-04-22 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-22 19:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 1:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-22 1:25 ` [ProbableSpam]Re: " Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-21 21:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-21 21:54 ` David Miller
2008-04-21 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-21 13:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-21 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
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