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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, tytso@mit.edu, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	adilger@sun.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] ext4: Semantics of delalloc,data=ordered
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:22:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4856BD70.4080000@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080616191727.GD31567@duck.suse.cz>

Jan Kara wrote:
>>>   Imagine you have a file with blocks 1 and 3 allocated and block 2 is a
>>> hole. You write blocks 1-3. Block 2 isn't allocated because of delalloc.
>>> Now if inode is already in the current transaction's list, during commit
>>> writes to blocks 1 and 3 will land on disk but write to block 2 will
>>> happen only after pdflush finds it.
>> And that should be fine with data=ordered mode right ?. Because since
>> block 2 is not yet allocated we don't have associated meta-data. So
>> even if we crash we have meta-data pointing to 1 and 3 and not 2. The
>> problem is only when we write the meta-data pointing to block 2 and not
>> block 2 itself ?.
>   Yes, it is correct. I may be just surprising (we didn't do things like
> this in data=ordered mode before).

Will it even be surprising?  "fill-in-hole; crash;" today may give you
the same thing, right?  It's just that with delalloc it might be a
bigger window in time for this to happen?

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-16 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12 15:25 [RFC PATCH] ext4: Add ordered mode support for delalloc Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-06-13 20:53 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-06-13 23:01 ` Mingming
2008-06-14  6:34   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-06-16 15:05 ` [RFC] ext4: Semantics of delalloc,data=ordered Jan Kara
2008-06-16 16:02   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-06-16 17:20     ` Jan Kara
2008-06-16 18:11       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-06-16 19:17         ` Jan Kara
2008-06-16 19:22           ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2008-06-16 19:45             ` Jan Kara
2008-06-16 18:55   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-16 18:58     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-16 19:22       ` Jan Kara
2008-06-16 19:40     ` Jan Kara

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