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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Curt Wohlgemuth <curtw@google.com>,
	ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Insure direct IO writes do not use the page cache
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:39:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A71E8D0.3030505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090730183053.GE9223@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Jan Kara wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:28:05PM -0700, Curt Wohlgemuth wrote:

...

>> 2) We can modify the ext4_ext_convert_to_initialized() to be more
>> aggressive about initializing data blocks if we know we are doing DIO,
>> since zero'ing an aligned 16 to 32 blocks and then waiting for the
>> journal commit once is cheaper than converting the extent one block at
>> a time and waiting for the journal commit after each block write.
>   Definitely. I'm not following the discussion too much in detail but
> what seems to me is the following could work:
>   The direct IO path would first send all the data to disk to the
> desired location (get_block wouldn't do any conversion, just map blocks).
> When this is done, we convert all the touched extents to initialized ones
> from ext4_direct_IO, update i_size if needed, and wait for transaction
> commit.
> 
> 								Honza

This is all about right, but it's tricky, because right now, get_block
is called in the direct IO path from get_more_blocks(), and it's called
with create == 0 unless OWN_LOCKING is specified.  If we do get_block w/
create == 0 and find prealloc'd blocks, then we're given back unmapped
buffer heads. This looks like a hole, and so DIO falls back to buffered.

Right now the only way to get create == 1 sent to get_blocks via
directio is to do OWN_LOCKING, which implies... we have to do our own
locking, and it'll take some time to get it right I think.

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-30 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-29  0:28 [PATCH RFC] Insure direct IO writes do not use the page cache Curt Wohlgemuth
2009-07-29 16:10 ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2009-07-29 17:18   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-07-29 17:41     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-07-29 19:48     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-07-29 22:17       ` Mingming
2009-07-29 17:47 ` Mingming
2009-07-29 18:10 ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-30 18:30   ` Jan Kara
2009-07-30 18:39     ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-07-30 18:44       ` Jan Kara
2009-07-30 19:16         ` Eric Sandeen
2009-07-30 20:33     ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-31 16:10       ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2009-08-01  6:56         ` [PATCH RFC] ext4 direct IO for holes, fallocate Mingming
2009-08-03 16:47           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-08-03 23:40             ` Mingming
2009-07-31 17:58       ` [PATCH RFC] Insure direct IO writes do not use the page cache Mingming
2009-07-31 18:03         ` Michael Rubin
2009-07-31 18:03           ` Michael Rubin
2009-08-03  9:36       ` Jan Kara
2009-07-30 11:06 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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