From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Ted Augustine <taugustine@techpathways.com>,
Alexey Fisher <bug-track@fisher-privat.net>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 2.6.32-rc1 and upwards]
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:02:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEF64ED.1040703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42D1C316-13BF-401C-BB2F-A3DF62996A54@sun.com>
Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On 2009-11-02, at 14:59, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>> One example is a hardware raid array that creates readonly snapshots
>> or clones. (Lots of those exist in the real world).
>>
>> So the typical backup procedure is:
>>
>> ====
>> Queisce application (databases, etc. have utils to do this.)
>>
>> Queisce filesystem (xfs_freeze -f can be done from userspace. is there
>> a ext4 util?)
>>
>> issue raid array command to create snapshot.
>>
>> release filesystem (xfs_freeze -u)
>>
>> release the app (util provided by app).
>>
>> Mount the snapshot readonly (true readonly with zero writes to the
>> block device).
>>
>> Backup the readonly snapshot (to tape, etc.).
>
> I thought Takashi Sato was working on allowing a filesystem freeze
> ioctl from userspace? This would hook into the filesystem-specific
> freeze code so that when the ioctl() returns the on-disk filesystem
> is fully consistent and does not even require journal replay.
That's in and done; most recent xfsprogs' xfs_freeze utility will even
freeze non-xfs filesystems now :) Otherwise a wrapper utility around
the ioctl would be trivial to write.
>> I believe XFS had 2 issues related to this process when first
>> implemented in linux.
>>
>> 1) It required the UUID to be unique. Obviously in the above scenario
>> it is not, so "mount -o nouuid" was added for xfs.
>>
>> 2) Journal replay was originally aways attempted in the above process,
>> so the "mount -o norecovery" option was added to force a true readonly
>> mount.
these days a frozen xfs fs should be consistent & not need replay.
-Eric
>> ext4 may already support mounting of readonly clones, but if not it
>> needs to before it will qualify as a data center ready filesystem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-02 23:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-30 14:20 xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 2.6.32-rc1 and upwards] Greg Freemyer
2009-10-30 15:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 15:31 ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 16:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 16:52 ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 17:13 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 17:43 ` Duane Griffin
2009-10-30 15:47 ` Alexey Fisher
2009-11-01 5:45 ` Theodore Tso
2009-11-02 21:59 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-11-02 22:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-02 23:02 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-11-04 8:05 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-04 16:20 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-11-03 13:52 ` Theodore Tso
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