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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Nebojsa Trpkovic <trx.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "data=writeback" and TRIM don't get along
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:34:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBE059D.3080208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BBE029D.9030303@gmail.com>

Nebojsa Trpkovic wrote:
> On 04/08/10 17:32, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> Well, you might just keep in mind that:
>>
>> 1) trimming these small amounts has actually looked very inefficient, and
>> 2) data=writeback really isn't very safe in the face of a crash or power loss, and
>> 3) hopefully we'll have a better trim solution eventually.
> 
> 1) I understand that big TRIMs are better then small ones, but skipping
> some TRIMs completely would lead to slow but sure drive degradation as
> drive would have less and less spare space for wear leveling.
> 
> 2) Yes, I'm aware of possible data=writeback inconsistency, but I've
> tried to let IO scheduler to merge and reorganize as many writes as it
> can, all to avoid small writes to SSD which are main cause of write
> amplification.
> 
> 3) I'll stick with no data=writeback for the time being. I guess I'm
> doing just fine even without it. :)
> 
> 
> One more noob quotestion completely out-of-topic:
> Will md layer pass TRIM command to drive if one has ext4 on linux
> software RAID 0/1/5 ?

I think the answer is "not yet but it's being worked on"

-Eric
 
> Nebojsa


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-08 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-08  0:50 "data=writeback" and TRIM don't get along Nebojsa Trpkovic
2010-04-08  1:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-08  1:37   ` Nebojsa Trpkovic
2010-04-08  4:10     ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-08  4:37       ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-08  4:47         ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-08 11:48           ` Nebojsa Trpkovic
2010-04-08 15:32             ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-08 16:21               ` Nebojsa Trpkovic
2010-04-08 16:34                 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2010-04-08  7:17     ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-04-08 11:47       ` Nebojsa Trpkovic

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