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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Edward Shishkin <eshishki@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4.
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:43:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD30393.4050800@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <o2y87f94c371004240730x389391dfka42a1e8abc498e1a@mail.gmail.com>

Greg Freemyer wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 04/24/2010 09:24 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

...

>>> I know I've been arguing against this patch for the single SSD case
>>> and I still think that use case should be handled by userspace as
>>> hdparm/wiper.sh currently does.  In particular for those extreme
>>> scenarios with JBOD SSDs, the user space solution wins because it
>>> knows how to optimize the trim calls via vectorized ranges in the
>>> payload.
>>>
>> I think that you have missed the broader point. This is not on by default,
>> so you can mount without discard and use whatever user space utility you
>> like at your discretion.
>>
>> ric
> 
> Ric,
> 
> I was trying to say the design should be driven by the large discard
> range use case, not the potentially pathological small discard range
> use case that would only benefit SSDs.
> 
> Greg

Bear in mind that this patch makes the discard range requests substantially
-larger- than what mount -o discard does on ext4 today, in fact that was
a main goal.

If the kernel could assemble vectors of ranges and pass them down, I think it
could be extended to use that as well.

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-24 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 10:55 Ext4: batched discard support Lukas Czerner
2010-04-19 10:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add ioctl FITRIM Lukas Czerner
2010-04-19 10:55   ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 Lukas Czerner
2010-04-20 21:21     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21  2:26       ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21  2:45         ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-21 18:59           ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 19:04             ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-21 19:22               ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-21 20:44                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 20:53                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 21:01                   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-21 21:03                     ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-21 21:47                       ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-21 21:56                         ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 21:59                         ` Mark Lord
2010-04-23  8:23                   ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-24 13:24                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 13:48                       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 14:30                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 14:43                           ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2010-04-24 15:03                             ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 17:04                               ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 18:30                                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-24 18:41                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-26 14:00                                     ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 14:42                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 15:27                                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-26 15:51                                           ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-28  1:25                                           ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 15:48                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-24 19:06                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 14:03                                     ` Mark Lord
2010-04-24 18:39                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-26 16:55                     ` Jan Kara
2010-04-26 17:46                       ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 17:52                         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-26 18:14                           ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 18:28                             ` Jeff Moyer
2010-04-26 18:38                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 - using rbtree Lukas Czerner
2010-04-26 18:42                                 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-04-27 15:29                                   ` Edward Shishkin
2010-04-21 20:52                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 16:20 ` Ext4: batched discard support Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 16:30   ` Eric Sandeen
2010-04-19 17:58     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-04-19 18:04       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-04-20 20:24   ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 20:34     ` Mark Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-07  7:53 Ext4: batched discard support - simplified version Lukas Czerner
2010-07-07  7:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add batched discard support for ext4 Lukas Czerner
2010-07-14  8:33   ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-07-14  9:40     ` Lukas Czerner
2010-07-14 10:03       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-07-14 11:43         ` Lukas Czerner

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