From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] e2fsck: Discard free data and inode blocks.
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:14:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CC1C664.90109@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq18w1qp3bl.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>
On 10/22/2010 01:03 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>> "Ric" == Ric Wheeler<ricwheeler@gmail.com> writes:
>>> so we're not depending on it zeroing blocks, we're just depending on
>>> it advertising correctly whether or not it -does- zero.
> If the relevant bits are set (ATA: DRAT and RZAT, SCSI: TPRZ) we'll set
> the bdev's discard_zeroes_data flag.
>
> [root@test ~]# lsscsi | grep SSD | awk '{ print $7 }'
> /dev/sde
> [root@test ~]# grep . /sys/block/sde/queue/discard_zeroes_data
> 1
>
> The relevant ioctl is BLKDISCARDZEROES.
>
>
> Ric> I think that ATA devices have historically not done this correctly,
>
> I'm only aware of one drive that advertised RZAT and got it wrong. I
> believe a firmware update fixed it.
>
> Generally we assume that if the firmware writers go through the effort
> of reporting things correctly then they have also implemented the
> feature. We have quite a few sanity checks in place in libata so we
> won't trigger if the firmware guys just put all ones in a word, for
> instance. There are several things that need to line up for us to
> actually set the discard flags.
>
>
> PS. http://oss.oracle.com/~mkp/docs/linux-advanced-storage.pdf
>
Hi Martin,
I think that the T13 people are still reworking (or have just finished?) the
spec. For example,
http://www.t13.org/documents/UploadedDocuments/docs2010/e09158r2-Trim_Clarifications.pdf
has more detail on how to interpret those bits. I certainly cannot claim to
have followed all of this recently, but do recall that early on the ATA devices
specifically had various behaviors that caused concern.
Ric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-22 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-21 14:15 [PATCH] e2fsck: Discard free data and inode blocks Lukas Czerner
2010-10-21 18:07 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-22 9:12 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-10-22 11:30 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-22 11:43 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-10-22 14:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-22 14:32 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-10-22 14:46 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-22 15:37 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-10-22 15:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-22 17:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-22 17:14 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2010-10-22 17:29 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-22 18:23 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-10-22 17:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-22 18:01 ` Lukas Czerner
2010-10-22 18:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-22 18:23 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-22 21:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-22 18:29 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-10-22 21:01 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-22 18:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-22 18:27 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-10-22 18:31 ` Lukas Czerner
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2010-10-11 10:37 Lukas Czerner
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