From: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <andreas.dilger@oracle.com>,
Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
Bernd Schubert <bs_lists@aakef.fastmail.fm>,
Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext4_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:37:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CC5EA78.1010005@ddn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CC5DDC5.7080003@redhat.com>
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On 10/25/2010 09:43 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>
> Now, extN has this feature of recording fs errors in the superblock,
> but I'm not sure we distinguish between "errors which require a fsck"
> and others?
That is definitely a good question - is it right to set a generic error
flag, if 'only' I/O errors came up? The problem is that the error flag
comes from ext4_error() and ext4_abort(), which are all over the code
and which do not make any difference if it just an IO error or real
filesystem issue.
>
> Anyway your characterization of xfs is wrong, IMHO, it's:
>
> Mount (possibly replaying the journal) because all should be well,
> we have faith in our hardware and our software.
> If during runtime the fs encounters a severe metadata error, it will
> shut down, and this is your cue to unmount and run xfs_repair, then
> remount. Doesn't seem backwards to me. ;) Requiring that fsck
> prior to the first mount makes no sense for a journaling fs.
>
> However, Bernd's issue is probably an issue in general with XFS
> as well (which doesn't record error state on-disk) - how to quickly
> know whether the filesystem you're about to mount in a cluster has
> a -known- integrity issue from a previous mount and really does
> require a fsck.
>
> For XFS, you have to have monitored the previous mount, I guess,
> and watched for any errors the kernel threw when it encountered them.
It really would be helpful, if filesystems would provide a health file
as Lustre does. A generic VFS proc/sys file or IOCTL would be helpful,
to have a generic interface. I probably should write a patch for it ;)
Cheers,
Bernd
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-22 13:33 ext4_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure Bernd Schubert
2010-10-22 17:25 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-22 17:42 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-22 18:32 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-22 18:54 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-23 16:00 ` Amir Goldstein
2010-10-23 17:46 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-23 22:26 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-23 23:56 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-24 0:20 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-24 1:08 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-24 14:42 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-23 22:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-24 8:50 ` Amir Goldstein
2010-10-24 13:55 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-24 14:30 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-24 15:20 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-24 15:39 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-24 15:49 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-24 16:16 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-24 16:43 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-25 10:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-25 11:45 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-25 12:54 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-25 14:57 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-25 19:49 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-25 20:08 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-10-25 20:10 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-10-25 19:43 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-10-25 20:37 ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
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