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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: orphan cleanup on readonly fs will corrupt future fs!
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:05:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6BB9BA.3050000@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_QBgDutcb7h2XHpjHR6k-4Rj-r6zryMXaNn6e@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/26/11 12:21 PM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I have just realized something very disturbing -
> that orphan cleanup is not being skipped on readonly mount of ext4/ext3.
> 
> I know that journal recovery is done on readonly mount
> and there is problem with that, since nothing happens
> in the fs level.
> 
> But orphan cleanup deletes inodes and frees blocks and that
> could be very bad for some RO_COMPAT features, SNAPSHOT
> and BIGALLOC to name two.

One thing to note is that if the device itself is readonly,
both journal recovery and orphan processing will be skipped,
if I recall...

-Eric

> I am not so sure why orphan cleanup is so important for readonly
> mount in the first place?
> 
> Now the damage has been done, because current stock kernels will
> corrupt future fs with SNAPSHOT and BIGALLOC features
> (unless Ted backs up from the decision to make BIGALLOC RO_COMPAT...)
> 
> I think that we should skip orphan cleanup on readonly mount ASAP and try
> to push this fix to as many stable/maint kernels out there, before the
> problem gets worse.
> 
> Can anyway see a problem with skipping orphan cleanup?
> Maybe there is a problem with later remount read-write?
> 
> I would spend time more time to investigate these questions,
> but I find this problem too disturbing and urgent to wait until I find
> the time to do so...
> 
> Amir.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-28 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-26 18:21 orphan cleanup on readonly fs will corrupt future fs! Amir Goldstein
2011-02-28  5:48 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-28 15:05 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]

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