From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Masayoshi MIZUMA <m.mizuma@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Re: [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:53:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9513DE.4060003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110331234050.GD2904@dastard>
On 3/31/11 6:40 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 05:06:28PM +0900, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:52 +0100
>> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> On Thu 17-02-11 12:50:51, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
>>>> (2011/02/16 23:56), Jan Kara wrote:
>>>>> On Wed 16-02-11 08:17:46, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:29:54 +0100
>>>>>> Jan Kara<jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue 15-02-11 12:03:52, Ted Ts'o wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:06:30PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for detailed analysis. Indeed this is a bug. Whenever we do IO
>>>>>>>>> under s_umount semaphore, we are prone to deadlock like the one you
>>>>>>>>> describe above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the fundamental problems here is that the freeze and thaw
>>>>>>>> routines are using down_write(&sb->s_umount) for two purposes. The
>>>>>>>> first is to prevent the resume/thaw from racing with a umount (which
>>>>>>>> it could do just as well by taking a read lock), but the second is to
>>>>>>>> prevent the resume/thaw code from racing with itself. That's the core
>>>>>>>> fundamental problem here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I think we can solve this by introduce a new mutex, s_freeze, and
>>>>>>>> having the the resume/thaw first take the s_freeze mutex and then
>>>>>>>> second take a read lock on the s_umount.
>>>>>>> Sadly this does not quite work because even down_read(&sb->s_umount)
>>>>>>> in thaw_super() can block if there is another process that tries to acquire
>>>>>>> s_umount for writing - a situation like:
>>>>>>> TASK 1 (e.g. flusher) TASK 2 (e.g. remount) TASK 3 (unfreeze)
>>>>>>> down_read(&sb->s_umount)
>>>>>>> block on s_frozen
>>>>>>> down_write(&sb->s_umount)
>>>>>>> -blocked
>>>>>>> down_read(&sb->s_umount)
>>>>>>> -blocked
>>>>>>> behind the write access...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only working solution I see is to check for frozen filesystem before
>>>>>>> taking s_umount semaphore which seems rather ugly (but might be bearable if
>>>>>>> we did so in some well described wrapper).
>>>>>> I created the patch that you imagine yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got a reproducer from Mizuma-san yesterday, and then I executed it on the kernel
>>>>>> without a fixed patch. After an hour, I confirmed that this deadlock happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, on the kernel with a fixed patch, this deadlock doesn't still happen
>>>>>> after 12 hours passed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The patch for linux-2.6.38-rc4 is as follows:
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> fs/fs-writeback.c | 2 +-
>>>>>> 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/fs-writeback.c b/fs/fs-writeback.c
>>>>>> index 59c6e49..1c9a05e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/fs/fs-writeback.c
>>>>>> +++ b/fs/fs-writeback.c
>>>>>> @@ -456,7 +456,7 @@ static bool pin_sb_for_writeback(struct super_block *sb)
>>>>>> spin_unlock(&sb_lock);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if (down_read_trylock(&sb->s_umount)) {
>>>>>> - if (sb->s_root)
>>>>>> + if (sb->s_frozen == SB_UNFROZEN&& sb->s_root)
>>>>>> return true;
>>>>>> up_read(&sb->s_umount);
>>>>
>>>>> So this is something along the lines I thought but it actually won't work
>>>>> for example if sync(1) is run while the filesystem is frozen (that takes
>>>>> s_umount semaphore in a different place). And generally, I'm not convinced
>>>>> there are not other places that try to do IO while holding s_umount
>>>>> semaphore...
>>>> OK. I understand.
>>>>
>>>> This code only fixes the case for the following path:
>>>> writeback_inodes_wb
>>>> -> ext4_da_writepages
>>>> -> ext4_journal_start_sb
>>>> -> vfs_check_frozen
>>>> But, the code doesn't fix the other cases.
>>>>
>>>> We must modify the local filesystem part in order to fix all cases...?
>>> Yes, possibly. But most importantly we should first find clear locking
>>> rules for frozen filesystem that avoid deadlocks like the one above. And
>>> the freezing / unfreezing code might become subtle for that reason, that's
>>> fine, but it would be really good to avoid any complicated things for the
>>> code in the rest of the VFS / filesystems.
>> I have deeply continued to examined the root cause of this problem, then
>> I found it.
>>
>> It is that we can write a memory which is mmaped to a file. Then the memory
>> becomes "DIRTY" so then the flusher thread (ex. wb_do_writeback) tries to
>> "writeback" the memory.
>
> Then surely the issue is that .page_mkwrite is not checking that the
> filesystem is frozen before allowing the page fault to continue and
> dirty the page?
>
>> I think the best approach to fix this problem is to let users not to write
>> memory which is mapped to a certain file while the filesystem is freezing.
>> However, it is very difficult to control users not to write memory which has
>> been already mapped to the file.
>
> If you don't allow the page to be dirtied in the fist place, then
> nothing needs to be done to the writeback path because there is
> nothing dirty for it to write back.
I floated
[PATCH, RFC] check for frozen filesystems in the mmap path
a long time ago, but it went nowhere; maybe time to revive that approach.
-Eric
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-31 23:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-07 11:53 [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock Masayoshi MIZUMA
2011-02-15 16:06 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 17:03 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-15 17:29 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 18:04 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-15 19:11 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-15 23:17 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-02-16 14:56 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-17 3:50 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-02-17 5:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-02-17 10:41 ` Jan Kara
2011-02-17 10:45 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-28 8:06 ` [RFC][PATCH] " Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-03-30 14:12 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-31 8:37 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31 8:48 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31 14:04 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-03-31 14:36 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-03-31 15:25 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-03-31 16:28 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-31 12:03 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-05 10:25 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-05 22:54 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 5:09 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-06 5:57 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 7:40 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-06 17:46 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-15 13:39 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-15 17:13 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-15 17:17 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-15 17:37 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-18 9:05 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-18 10:51 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 9:43 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-22 6:58 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-04-22 21:26 ` Peter M. Petrakis
2011-04-22 21:40 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22 22:57 ` Peter M. Petrakis
2011-04-22 22:10 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-25 6:28 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-05-03 8:06 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 11:01 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:08 ` (unknown), Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:46 ` your mail Jan Kara
2011-05-03 13:56 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:26 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:36 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-03 15:43 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 19:24 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-06 15:20 ` [RFC][PATCH] Do not accept a new handle when the F.S is frozen Surbhi Palande
2011-05-06 15:20 ` [PATCH] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Surbhi Palande
2011-05-06 20:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-05-07 20:04 ` [PATCH v2] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-08 8:24 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-05-09 9:04 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 9:24 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-09 9:53 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-09 13:49 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 14:51 ` [PATCH v3] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 15:08 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10 15:07 ` [PATCH] " Surbhi Palande
2011-05-10 21:07 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-05-11 7:46 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-09 15:23 ` [PATCH v3] " Eric Sandeen
2011-05-11 7:06 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-11 7:10 ` [PATCH] Attempt to sync the fsstress writes to a frozen F.S Surbhi Palande
2011-05-12 14:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-24 21:42 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 12:00 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-25 12:12 ` Theodore Tso
2011-05-27 16:28 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-11 9:05 ` [PATCH v3] Adding support to freeze and unfreeze a journal Andreas Dilger
2011-05-12 9:40 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 13:08 ` [PATCH] Prevent dirtying a page when ext4 F.S is frozen Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 15:19 ` [RFC][PATCH] Re: [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock Jan Kara
2011-05-04 12:09 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 19:19 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-04 21:34 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 22:48 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 6:06 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-05 11:18 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-05 14:01 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-03-31 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 23:53 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2011-04-01 14:08 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 5:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 6:18 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 11:21 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 13:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-06 22:59 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 17:40 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 21:33 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 9:07 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 10:56 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 11:27 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 12:06 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 12:20 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 12:30 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 13:16 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 13:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:20 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 14:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 16:23 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 16:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 13:22 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 13:27 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-02 14:26 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-02 14:04 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-03 7:27 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-03 20:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-04 8:26 ` Surbhi Palande
2011-05-04 14:30 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-02 14:01 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-05 10:44 ` Toshiyuki Okajima
2011-12-09 1:56 ` Masayoshi MIZUMA
2011-12-15 12:41 ` Masayoshi MIZUMA
2013-11-29 4:58 ` Yongqiang Yang
2013-11-29 8:00 ` Jan Kara
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