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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 64bit filesystem questions
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:45:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DF25830.3030609@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D6EAD75-AD40-4761-91E4-9245B26536C7@dilger.ca>

On 6/10/2011 1:29 PM, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On 2011-06-10, at 11:14 AM, Phillip Susi wrote:
>> On 6/10/2011 12:19 PM, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>> I think in the presence of flex_bg this issue is moot.
>>
>> What is the issue without flex_bg?
>
> No "issue" really, just that the block/inode bitmaps are spread all over
> the filesystem.  The original discussion was about whether there could be
> "larger bitmaps that addressed more than 32768 blocks", which is essentially
> what the flex_bg feature provides.  With flex_bg the bitmaps for different
> groups will be allocated adjacent to each other on disk, and allow addressing
> more than 32768 blocks without any seeking.
>
> On large filesystems without flex_bg, the distribution of the bitmaps without
> flex_bg means that a seek is needed to read each one, and given that spinning
> disks have stayed at about 100 seeks/sec for decades it means 10+ minutes just
> to read all of the bitmaps.
>
> On my 2TB 5400 RPM SATA drive, e2fsck time went from ~20 minutes to ~3 minutes
> by copying the data to a new ext4 filesystem with flex_bg + extents.  For a
> fair comparison, I then reformatted the original (identical) disk without
> flex_bg or extents and copied the data back, so that there wasn't any unfair
> comparison between the newly-formatted filesystem and the old fragmented one.

I know what flex_bg is; what I don't understand is what it has to do 
with the limit on the size of a block group.  Whether the block bitmaps 
are stored in their native block group, or clustered up with flex_bg 
does not seem to have anything to do with whether or not the size of the 
bitmap can exceed 32k blocks.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-10 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-09 14:36 64bit filesystem questions Phillip Susi
2011-06-10  0:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-10 15:19   ` Phillip Susi
2011-06-10 16:19     ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-10 17:14       ` Phillip Susi
2011-06-10 17:29         ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-10 17:45           ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2011-06-10 20:37             ` Andreas Dilger
2011-06-10 21:21               ` Phillip Susi

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